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Post by Velkontés on Jan 11, 2014 6:57:58 GMT -5
Taz said something funny this week, about the main event: "There were a lot of moving parts". Yeah, no shit. I was laughing my ass off as ever more people came running in like it was a WCW tribute show or something. There was literally no wrestling at all before the interference began. What a colossal clusterfuck.
I think that was the most fitting, TNA-est possible ending to AJ Styles' 10-year TNA run.
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Post by Naitch on Jan 12, 2014 0:06:48 GMT -5
Here is the ending that didn't make it to TV at the end of Styles vs Magnus.
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Post by MasterSnit on Jan 17, 2014 17:22:30 GMT -5
That main event from last week was ridiculous and all, but the more it dragged on and the worse it got the more I started to get drawn in. If any match ever deserved the Benny Hill treatment it's that one. It seems AJ actually has left now, which makes me wonder when exactly they knew he wasn't going to be re-signing. Before he won the title? After he won the title? Halfway through the angle of him having left TNA with their title?
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OK, because of what I just said I curiously searched for "TNA Benny Hill" and found this:
LOL!
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Post by Velkontés on Jan 17, 2014 18:20:08 GMT -5
Ah yes, the infamous "Everyone falls in the hole" PPV. And I've seen that mashup before. Although giving the Benny Hill music to Magnus vs Styles would actually make it more stately and refined.
Taz had another funny line this week. "Is the BFF line still in with the kids these days." That made me laugh a lot for some reason.
I also need to point out that Opening Voiceover Dude saying "A New Genesis is Born" is a nonsensical sentence, which TNA seems particularly prone to (e.g., people thinking you can escape checkmate or a dichotomy with three things in it. Oh, and Falls Count Anywhere Steel Cage Matches.). Genesis, by definition, means "the coming into being of something". It's like saying the "new birth of a birth".
The shittiness of TNA matches lately is really starting to bug me. They built up to Styles' return, they deliver a clusterfuck. They built up to Sting getting his hands on EC3, they deliver a screwjob. They bring Madison back after a year with a backstory, they deliver a 3-minute title match. The fact that these clusterfucks and screwjobs and handicap matches make storyline sense is a huge problem with TNA right now. Storylines should be servicing matches that we want to see, not the other way round.
I did like Bully vs Anderson though. I like the idea that Bully being a desparate man with nothing to lose has toughened him up, enabling him to kick out of Anderson's stuff. The commentators actually did a good job for once in highlighting that.
And holy fuck I'm sick to death of Dixie. She was pretty funny dicking around with Kurt, but there is just way too much of her yapping on this show.
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Post by Naitch on Jan 23, 2014 0:47:47 GMT -5
I find myself fast forwarding a lot through Impact. But I did notice that TNA has hired The American Wolves. If TNA is being serious about revitalizing the tag division, they should bring back Alex Shelley and restart MCMG. I've been wanting to see the Machine Guns vs American Wolves for awhile now. If American Wolves do break up in TNA, I can only see this ending with Davey Richards being a guy challenging for titles and co-main eventing PPVs, while Eddie Edwards goes the way of D'Von.
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Post by Champ on Jan 23, 2014 19:50:33 GMT -5
Tna will NEVER be successful unless they completely reboot with new management. They have zero investment ability unless it's stupid garbage. But every time a really promising character/wrestler is on tv, if he doesn't draw wwe ratings in 3 weeks they try someone new. It's like they go from cocaine to heroin to steroids, instead of training in a gym naturally for a year and patiently wait for results. Anyone of us can make that company better than it is. It's such a shitty running company
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Post by Champ on Jan 24, 2014 11:29:26 GMT -5
Ok so I just turned on TNA and the first segment, Dixie is freaking out over a rumored hostile Tna investor "takeover" and sting is already in on it. Well....this is original! Who's the prime investor gonna be, Eric Bischoff? SMFH
This company is just laughable. You almost have to feel bad at this point
On a side note, I heard a lot about the wolves. There was this huge buzz about them signing with wwe and when the deal fell through they immediately signed with Tna. I'm playing dumb right now because I don't really know but, it sounds like these dudes were the hottest tagteam free agents
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Post by Naitch on Jan 24, 2014 18:31:01 GMT -5
On a side note, I heard a lot about the wolves. There was this huge buzz about them signing with wwe and when the deal fell through they immediately signed with Tna. I'm playing dumb right now because I don't really know but, it sounds like these dudes were the hottest tagteam free agents Here is a rundown on The Wolves (are they still The American Wolves or are they now just The Wolves?) Davey Richards is like a mini Chris Benoit. He is the bees knees in the ring. He has been fired from a bunch of indies for being a huge dick hole and I'm willing to go into more details if you want. Eddie Edwards, will always be that jobber who lost openers in ROH to me. I can't move past that for some reason. For a title history, they are multiple time ROH Tag Champs. Edwards is a former and first ROH TV Champ and they are both former ROH Champs. Hell, Richards took the title off of Edwards.
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Post by Velkontés on Jan 25, 2014 15:13:28 GMT -5
Ok so I just turned on TNA and the first segment, Dixie is freaking out over a rumored hostile Tna investor "takeover" and sting is already in on it. Well....this is original! Who's the prime investor gonna be, Eric Bischoff? SMFH Well, this is TNA, so I'm going with the stupidest possible answer to that question: the mystery investor is Dixie Carter. God, what is the fucking point of all this bullshit? I did enjoy the cage match this week. I would have marked the fuck out if Roode had crawled out before Angle landed on the floor. I knew it wasn't going to happen. But still. Great match. Also on this week's episode: an "on-a-pole" match (with a screwy finish to boot. Jesus), a "person-locked-in-a-cage" match, and another WCW Main Event (I made it 10 people coming out of the clown car this week). So seeing as Dave Lagana is apparently responsible for this shit, I'm going to pull out an old catchphrase from years back: great job, Dave! The fact they stressed it was CONTRACT vs Title rather than CAREER vs Title makes me think Sting will be back in a few weeks.
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Post by MasterSnit on Jan 26, 2014 16:22:22 GMT -5
That opening promo with the cheesy lawyer guy felt like it was never going to end. I really don't know if I can handle this same angle playing out all over again.
Spud is irritating me more and more every week. He's constantly over exaggerating things and making gestures to the crowd and camera every couple of seconds. Plus, he looks like a ten year old boy prancing around dressed as a male stripper. It's just weird.
TNA's roster seems to be shrinking on a weekly basis. They have about twenty characters right now with maybe four actual wrestling angles going on. It's maybe not a bad thing if things break down completely and they start again, but if it's going to be another company power struggle then forget it.
Magnus also looks really weak as champion. Bobby Roode getting involved in the clown car invasions from the last couple of weeks makes him look like he's the man.
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Post by Champ on Jan 28, 2014 22:15:46 GMT -5
I seriously borderline can't watch tna anymore. It's just so bad. It's like I truly believe you can just grab the 5 or 6 of us to run creative and it would be a better show.
I forgot who said this(I want to say Jim Ross)...said one thing creative writers in tna make their biggest mistake with simply is, "IT'S NOT THAT HARD!" And that is the god damn truth! There's a simple formula you gotta stick to, good guy, bad guy, and give us a substantial reason(again, not that hard) to feel this way about both. Then you can let the crowd tell you where to go from there and stop with these god damn swerves, power struggles, and inconsistencies involving the same basic 8 or so guys in a circle jerk for 10 yrs now.
The power struggle thing has been done already, and again and again......and again. Just because it went over majorly well one time(referring to the NWO of course), doesn't mean it's going to work every god damn time. Hey, undertaker rose out of a casket and levitated to the top of the arena in 1994. That was pretty epic. Let's make kofi Kingston do that too! Then 6 months later we will have the Miz do it. It worked so well with the undertaker, it's gotta work again right?
And stop with these god damn swerves! You wanna know what a real swerve is? Something you never saw coming, period, not something that you had to guess what time of the night it was going to happen or happen to...and be right almost every time
Remember when the nexus debuted? THAT was a swerve. They were going on with a normal raw where everything was about that main event, and then these 7 rookies, that were way in the back of our minds, came out with no hint or trace that it was going to happen, and destroyed everything in sight for 10-15 min straight. NO ONE saw that coming. Take note TNA. No one turned on raw going, hmm I wonder if those gay ass NXT rookies are going to form an extremely deadly alliance and take out cm punk and john cena, and everything else that moves.
Even in wwe, they tend to complicate it more these days because they just have way too many things going on. Before writers make a move, they have to think about the road to mania, ratings, merch sales, web activity. Then you got twitter, rumors to kill, and other outside influences. I can see why the writers play it safe a lot of times. That's why I blame Vince for a lot of it.
Sorry for going off topic. I just don't know what to say about this company anymore. I hate to say it, like MS mentioned, I actually want this damn company to end. It has just been the most disappointing "rival company" Ever. I feel like it's actually time for a new rival company or new second company. This one just sucks lol
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Post by Naitch on Jan 29, 2014 10:02:40 GMT -5
Let's change the conversation to swerves for a little bit, since they are more interesting then TNA right now.
Some how (probably through Russo) TNA has it in its head it needs to swerve us every other week. When the swerve becomes the norm, it's not a swerve. It's just fucking stupid.
WWE is really good at gentle swerves, or swerves that aren't ground breaking and are only there to further one storyline. The latest example is Daniel Bryan turning on Bray Wyatt. We learned, through a swerve, that Bryan didn't join the family, he infiltrated it.
ROH rarely swerves. The last one they had was Kevin Steen decided to let anyone that wanted into the stable S.C.U.M. Soon as he said it Matt Hardy, Rhino, Cliff Compton and a couple other ex-WWE guys popped out and announced they were there to destroy ROH. The swerve was that S.C.U.M wasn't formed to destroy the company but was there to teach Desmond Wolfe (the power figure of ROH) the lesson Kevin Steen wanted to teach them. So, Kevin Steen had to turn face and destroy his stable.
Simple swerves or rare swerves work well.
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Post by Velkontés on Jan 29, 2014 14:37:07 GMT -5
You know what would have been a great swerve for TNA to pull off? If Magnus had beaten AJ Styles clean, convincingly, without a single soul coming down or any bullshit whatsover. We were all conditioned to expect bullshit because of the stakes (as I said before the bullshit in that match MADE SENSE storyline-wise), so if Magnus had won clean we would have gone, "oh shit, this guy is for real".
Would've been a lot more tension for that Sting vs Magnus match too. Have Magnus win that one clean too. Then we're left wondering who is going to kill this asshole.
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Post by Naitch on Jan 29, 2014 17:49:51 GMT -5
You know what would have been a great swerve for TNA to pull off? If Magnus had beaten AJ Styles clean, convincingly, without a single soul coming down or any bullshit whatsover. We were all conditioned to expect bullshit because of the stakes (as I said before the bullshit in that match MADE SENSE storyline-wise), so if Magnus had won clean we would have gone, "oh shit, this guy is for real". Would've been a lot more tension for that Sting vs Magnus match too. Have Magnus win that one clean too. Then we're left wondering who is going to kill this asshole. Which wouldn't have been out of the realm of possibility. Before he turned heel, Magnus was single handily beating the shit out of Aces and 8s.
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Post by MasterSnit on Feb 2, 2014 16:06:34 GMT -5
You know what would have been a great swerve for TNA to pull off? If Magnus had beaten AJ Styles clean, convincingly, without a single soul coming down or any bullshit whatsover. What, like a real wrestling match? Put down the pipe, V. It's like that option doesn't even cross their mind when it comes to booking. I've heard Sting might actually be going to WWE this year and that he might be gone from TNA. So yeah, why not have your new champion beat the brakes off of a legend and send him packing in order to garner some good heat and legitimacy? TNA try to book every episode like a 90 minute movie where they try to swerve and excite the fans at every turn, but they should be booking their show in 3-4 month periods like a TV drama. The angles and feuds would be allowed to breathe and develop over time before reaching exciting conclusions and PPV matches that we look forward to having become invested in the angle over the course of weeks and months. Right now we get Lost: The Movie on a weekly basis. I wish TNA wouldn't copy a former WWE wrestler's theme music as much as they do. The second I heard a tick on last weeks show I knew the latest investor was MVP. James Storm backtracking on a heel turn for now might not be so bad considering the roster seems to be shrinking. I did enjoy Gunner's promo and the interaction between the two of them. I think TNA are here in the UK for another few weeks of TV tapings and they should really come here as much as they can. Unlike WWE shows, Impact airs on free TV over here and they get pretty good ratings. And their live shows attract good crowds as we saw last week and previously when they have been here. They should try to capitalize on their popularity outside or North America as much as they can.
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