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Raw
Oct 10, 2015 12:08:46 GMT -5
Post by Naitch on Oct 10, 2015 12:08:46 GMT -5
I think watching Raw on the WWE website is the way to go, it's much a time thing as it is a bored with the product as a whole thing. I think they could take a lesson from NXT, where less is more. The weekly NXT shows are really nothing to write home about, but the Takeover specials feel so refreshing to wrestling as a whole and part of that is almost depriving the audience of content comparatively speaking about the main roster.
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Raw
Oct 25, 2015 16:54:40 GMT -5
Post by Velkontés on Oct 25, 2015 16:54:40 GMT -5
Yeah, it would also prevent Sheamus wrestling 200 times a year. Since they've gone to 3hours for Raw (plus all those other shows they do) I've always been reminded of a funny Onion article: www.theonion.com/article/coca-cola-introduces-new-30-liter-size-1696 "I like wrestling a lot, so it would follow that I would like a lot of wrestling"
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Raw
Oct 27, 2015 20:15:44 GMT -5
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Post by Champ on Oct 27, 2015 20:15:44 GMT -5
I'm so deathly bored with WWE. It just feels like it gets more and more watered down. The storylines are stupid and the same assholes have been around for years now with a guy here and there new in the mix. They just seriously need a new revolution. I just can't deal with "Cena's company" anymore. No one has been the face of a company as long as this guy. The irony is he is wrestling better than ever now lol. But even with legends on Raw, it just doesn't do well with me anymore. I don't know if I'm just getting older and maybe the direction of wrestling as a whole just doesn't suit me anymore.
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Raw
Oct 29, 2015 18:03:48 GMT -5
Post by Velkontés on Oct 29, 2015 18:03:48 GMT -5
I'm so deathly bored with WWE. It just feels like it gets more and more watered down. The storylines are stupid and the same assholes have been around for years now with a guy here and there new in the mix. They just seriously need a new revolution. I just can't deal with "Cena's company" anymore. No one has been the face of a company as long as this guy. The irony is he is wrestling better than ever now lol. But even with legends on Raw, it just doesn't do well with me anymore. I don't know if I'm just getting older and maybe the direction of wrestling as a whole just doesn't suit me anymore. You know what's funny, Champ? Even though it feels like the same assholes, when you actually look at a typical episode of Raw, it's stacked with guys who have only been on the scene for a couple years (Rollins, Reigns, Owens, Rusev, Neville, Ambrose, 2/3rds of New Day, most of the Divas). That just tells you how shitty and repetitive their booking has been for a while. It's like they did all their innovation 10+ years ago and now they're just going to coast for ever more on it. Example: Money in the Bank. It was a new thing a decade ago, and now every year it rolls around like clockwork, some asshole wins it and carries a stupid briefcase around for a while and cashes it in and blah blah blah blah.
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Raw
Nov 2, 2015 21:23:03 GMT -5
Post by Naitch on Nov 2, 2015 21:23:03 GMT -5
Yeah, it would also prevent Sheamus wrestling 200 times a year. Since they've gone to 3hours for Raw (plus all those other shows they do) I've always been reminded of a funny Onion article: www.theonion.com/article/coca-cola-introduces-new-30-liter-size-1696 "I like wrestling a lot, so it would follow that I would like a lot of wrestling" That is exactly what it feels like. I think this is how I learned less is more.
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Raw
Nov 14, 2015 17:02:15 GMT -5
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Post by Champ on Nov 14, 2015 17:02:15 GMT -5
Same here. Also, the other thing that helped me see that less is more is Brock Lesnar. The fact that he is never around is what makes it feel so special when he is there. The brand split ending didn't help either. But WWE turned into a bunch of dunces when it comes to building stars. It feels like it is all about ads and social media now, where wrestling supports THAT Product
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Raw
Nov 19, 2015 19:45:48 GMT -5
Post by MasterSnit on Nov 19, 2015 19:45:48 GMT -5
The one thing more than anything else I dislike about modern day WWE is that it is so formulaic and predictable most of the time. I get it that we're not kids anymore and we're going to be able to figure out where most of the storylines are going, but the way the shows are presented is the same pretty much every week. There is absolutely nothing raw about RAW these days. They should at least experiment with the structure of their shows a little.
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Raw
Nov 23, 2015 17:12:42 GMT -5
Post by Velkontés on Nov 23, 2015 17:12:42 GMT -5
Talking about formulaic and predictable, how many times has last night's MITB routine played out exactly like that now? Off the top of my head I can think of Dan Bryan doing it to Big Show, Orton doing it to Bryan and now Sheamus doing it to Reigns. Is it safe to assume that they are completely out of ideas now?
I mean, they could've had Triple H bundle Reigns out of the tourney to Del Rio with a millon run-ins, and then after Ambrose beats Del Rio for the title and HHH and Sheamus do their thing, Reigns comes back out to run them over and foil their plan. That way Reigns has feuds with HHH & Sheamus and you've got Reigns/Ambrose a bit further down the line if you want to tweener things.
Or they could have had Reigns just beat Sheamus.
But hey I'm just a dipshit on a message board, not one of these highly-paid creative geniuses they have in the booking committee.
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Nov 24, 2015 19:22:46 GMT -5
Post by Velkontés on Nov 24, 2015 19:22:46 GMT -5
I don't like posting twice in a row, but I kinda think Monday's Paige vs Charlotte match illustrated the problems with Raw/WWE at the moment. I thought these two put on a really good, physical match. They both got counted out and I think the idea was that Paige was going to lose her shit and turn the screws on Charlotte. And it was good, but it could have been a lot more effective. If Paige had just battered the shit out Charlotte it would have really sold Paige as a killer and made Charlotte sympathetic. And they teased it, with Paige prepping the announce table... and instead of doing something despicable and violent she just slapped on her submission move instead. As if doing a submission move where your opponent is lifted off the ground is somehow going to hurt more on a fucking table. I mean, Charlotte sold the hell out of it, which is why it made me think they missed an opportunity there. And then Paige walked off. And the announcers were trying to TELL us that Paige had lost it. Oh, also it only took one ref to get her to knock it off - get 3 or 4 out there! Sell the fucking thing! The whole roster came out when Lesnar and Undertaker squared off.
And can someone tell me how Zeb's MexAmerica is different to TNA's MexicoAmerica?
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Raw
Dec 3, 2015 16:35:53 GMT -5
Post by MasterSnit on Dec 3, 2015 16:35:53 GMT -5
Looks like they have gave up on MexAmerica already in favour of Guardians of the Gingernut.
I'm willing to give Sheamus as champion a chance, but I doubt they will have him going into WrestleMania as champion so it probably won't last long. An ideal scenario that will keep everyone happy is if Sheamus cheats and keeps the title until the Rumble where Reigns finally beats him clean for the title, and Daniel Bryan returns later in the night and wins the Rumble. WWE have their guy going into WrestleMania as champ and the fans have their guy going in as the challenger. I'd be cool with that.
Also, after last year's horrible Rumble, I demand a final four of Bryan, Cesaro, Ambrose and Owens. And they go a further ten minutes until Bryan wins. Last year we had Kane and Big Show at the end dumping out everyone who people actually cared about.
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Raw
Dec 13, 2015 9:02:27 GMT -5
Post by MasterSnit on Dec 13, 2015 9:02:27 GMT -5
But hey I'm just a dipshit on a message board, not one of these highly-paid creative geniuses they have in the booking committee. From what I've read and heard about the booking, Vince is still ultimately a booking dictator. The writing team can come up with a million good ideas if they want, but if the one bad idea is the one that happens to pique Vince's interest, then that's the one that ends up on TV. I think that is what they need to change. One man can't always know what is best. Also someone needs to convince him that robotic, scripted promos aren't always best. The best promos the wrestlers cut are buried on their Youtube channel when they are just shooting from the hip. So instead of seeing this stuff that will help fans engage with a wrestler on a deeper and more personal manner, we get our 5th replay of what Roman Reigns did an hour and a half ago.
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Raw
Dec 14, 2015 15:01:12 GMT -5
Post by Velkontés on Dec 14, 2015 15:01:12 GMT -5
Roman should have done that 6 months ago. At least. I mean, he should have put Steph through a table as well to really top it off, but at least SOMEONE has finally socked one to the Authority after a million years.
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Raw
Dec 27, 2015 16:56:46 GMT -5
Post by MasterSnit on Dec 27, 2015 16:56:46 GMT -5
Seriously, that was long overdue. Back when Vince was still around regularly he would get stunnered or punched every other week to help keep things more balanced with the heels and the faces. It seems Triple H and Stephanie don't really get that part of their job. I mean, Triple H might put someone over every six months or so at WrestleMania or something, so there is that, but what does Stephanie do to put anyone over? Other than the time Vickie pushed her into that mud pit I can't think of any other time in the last few years when Stephanie jobbed even slightly for a face.
The last couple of weeks Reigns has been keeping his promos short and sweet and keeping more of an edge to him so they need to keep that up. This will all be wasted if he starts telling jokes again and winking at cameras.
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Raw
Dec 28, 2015 7:26:54 GMT -5
Post by Velkontés on Dec 28, 2015 7:26:54 GMT -5
What annoys me about it, now that you mention that mudpit match (which was a year and a half ago!) is that Steph totally put her heart into it and it was a great moment as a result. So she can certainly pull it off, it just only happens once a year. It shouldn't take an MMA fighter to get one over on her.
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Raw
Jan 26, 2016 18:19:46 GMT -5
Post by Velkontés on Jan 26, 2016 18:19:46 GMT -5
Fucking hilarious - to me, anyway - that they would randomly bring up that Rock / Big Show Rumble controversy from 16 years ago last night. Back when I was much younger and drunker that was a point of contention amongst my friends. I mean, the dude was asked to provide evidence that he was right, he did, he got a match against the Rock at No Way Out, won it, and went to Wrestlemania. And yet they still Rock is still listed as the winner of that match. What a crock. That was some quality trolling by Rock though.
I don't think I understand, having gone to all that effort to get the title off Reigns, why they'd put him in a #1 Contenders match. Unless the Authority is secretly being run by Eric Bischoff behind the scenes.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go and be depressed about the fact that Rock / Big Show Rumble was sixteen motherfucking years ago.
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