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Post by MasterSnit on Feb 3, 2016 14:00:33 GMT -5
Maybe Brock and Undertaker can team up to take on the whole Wyatt family. That might be OK.
Hey, Big Show is a face again out of nowhere. Maybe they will have him and Strowman in a match.
At this point I wouldn't mind it if they had Ambrose sneak in for a title shot and make it a triple threat. No way they don't have Reigns in the match, but adding Ambrose would be good. Maybe Ambrose gets screwed out of the IC title then irritates Vince enough for him to add him to the main event, damn it.
There's a lot of good wrestlers in the mid-card right now. I'd like to see them do a gauntlet style match for the IC title. Ziggler, AJ, Owens, Miz, etc. Give them 25 minutes and the chance to steal the show.
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Post by Velkontés on Feb 22, 2016 17:22:12 GMT -5
I seriously cannot believe it's 2016 and it's going to be another Triple H Wrestlemania main event.
I have seen an amusing theory though - NXT are doing a big show on the same weekend... where Triple H will most likely be a Face because everyone loves NXT... and those same assholes going to that show will go to Wrestlemania and cheer Triple H in the main event. I actually kinda feel sorry for Roman Reigns, he can't really win. Only a little bit sorry though.
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Post by Naitch on Feb 23, 2016 13:36:59 GMT -5
I seriously cannot believe it's 2016 and it's going to be another Triple H Wrestlemania main event. I have seen an amusing theory though - NXT are doing a big show on the same weekend... where Triple H will most likely be a Face because everyone loves NXT... and those same assholes going to that show will go to Wrestlemania and cheer Triple H in the main event. I actually kinda feel sorry for Roman Reigns, he can't really win. Only a little bit sorry though. I feel sorry for the man Roman Reigns. It's the booking team that hasn't learned their lessons yet. At the same time, if Roman isn't going to be top face right now, who is? Brock and Taker are part timers, Cena is injured and DBry is medically retired. Reigns may not be the last pick, but right now he is the only pick. People say they want Ambrose as the top guy, but they'll just shit on him to.
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Post by Velkontés on Feb 23, 2016 18:07:36 GMT -5
I feel sorry for the man Roman Reigns. It's the booking team that hasn't learned their lessons yet. I mean, the man is still right at the top of the card, and has been for two years, which is why I feel sorry for the dude... but only a little bit. That's a better career than 99.9% of everyone who has ever stepped foot in a wrestling ring. I'm sure you remember that Brock Lesnar vs Goldberg Wrestlemania match, Naitch? Rather than being a novelty, that match looks like a portent of things to come in retrospect. That kind of reaction (which never happened before then) seems to be happening more and more frequently these days, and while the booking sure as heck doesn't help, I don't think it's ALL the fault of the booking. I sometimes wonder what exactly crowds want from mainstream wrestling, because you're right, they would shit on Ambrose too. Undertaker vs Shane McMahon in a Hell In A Cell Match. That is quite the random matchup. I mean, it seriously feels like they just pulled that straight out of their ass (although I would imagine that Shane coming back has been on the cards for a while). In kayfabe, Undertaker doesn't even need the cell, he just needs to hit three moves and the Tombstone and the match is over. I've seen speculation that it's a red herring and Shane will eventually have a proxy fighting for him - in other words, they're praying that Cena will be able to go and if not go to plan B. Which certain seems plausible... likely, even. But I think they're crazy enough to go through with it and have it turn out like Sting vs HHH last year. I guess I'm trying to say I have absolutely no idea what they're doing.
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Post by MasterSnit on Mar 4, 2016 17:12:30 GMT -5
I don't think the fans would turn on Ambrose as long as his booking remained roughly the same. I don't even think most of the fans hate Reigns. I don't. It's what he represents that people are so against. He is the guy they want to replace Cena at the top of the mountain for the next 5+ years and the thought of that irritates a lot of fans. I like Reigns and wouldn't mind him being one of a handful of guys to build the company around for the next decade, but to have him as the next Superman who is always above everyone else no matter what sounds horrible. To make things worse for this WrestleMania they are going with Triple H to put the new face over in a title match. I just can't see it working.
Shane wrestling the Undertaker is a strange choice. I'm not trying to figure it out though, because Cena's probably going to pop up like a Jack in the box right before WrestleMania and take Shane's place.
How do you guys think things might have shaped up if so many people weren't injured? Would Triple H still be in the main event? Would Rollins be defending the title instead? Cena would probably be going against the Undertaker. I wonder if Ronda Rousey would have had a match if she didn't get destroyed and traumatised by Holly Holm.
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Post by Naitch on Mar 5, 2016 14:49:52 GMT -5
Some interesting questions there MS.
My predictions without the injuries.
Cena vs Undertaker was confirmed I believe by Meltzer until Cena had his injury and Shane is the current plan b (I say current because I can see Shane having someone actually wrestle for him)
HHH vs Rollins since they were making Rollins look more like a liability than a company man when he got injured.
Orton would have a place on the card, probably against someone like Jericho, Styles, Ambrose or Owens.
Hard to tell where D-bry would have been, but in his case, a match is a match and it will be great.
Tyson Kidd would have been in the preshow.
Ronda Rousey would not have had an actual match, she is under contract to UFC. Maybe a camera zooms up on her in the crowd, but the UFC was not happy with her last year.
Cesaro would have been on the preshow, or maybe a match with someone like Owens.
Titus O'Neal would have been the sixth guy eliminated from the Andre Battle Royal.
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Post by Velkontés on Mar 6, 2016 18:00:34 GMT -5
I completely disagree with Naitch, Titus would have been the 7th or 8th guy thrown out of the Andre Battle Royale.
Dunno really. Do you think they might have done Sting vs Undertaker if he hadn't got injured back at Night of Champions? Do they plan 6 months in advance?
His booking wouldn't stay the same though. He would start winning most of his matches because that's what wrestling companies have done with their Aces since the beginning of time. People loved Goldberg and all he did was squash people. Something seems to have changed since then, and there seems to be an aversion to over-successful wrestlers now. I am absolutely convinced that there would have been a Daniel Bryan backlash if he had Cena'd the rest of that year he won the title.
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Post by MasterSnit on Mar 10, 2016 19:30:49 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I forgot they were planting the seeds for Rollins - Triple H. Undertaker vs Cena or Sting would have been the likely matches. I can't imagine the original choices on the blackboard were
A) John Cena B) Sting C) Shane McMahon
Such a random match. I'm beginning to think Vince and Shane are in on this together. Vince is tired of Stephanie and Hunter ruining what he built and wants Shane to take over and fix things. At the same time Vince gets to destroy his "greatest creation" because he is the creator and it is his right. Or something like that.
About Ambrose's booking changing and the booking of their top faces in general, I agree that the booking is a problem in getting them over and keeping them over.
Ambrose's current success with Roman gone is making things so much worse for Roman. The WrestleMania main event is going to be Robin stepping up to take on the Penguin, while Batman has already fought the Joker earlier in the night.
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Post by Naitch on Mar 11, 2016 18:06:03 GMT -5
I think I am more excited for Undertaker vs Shane McMahon that any other match announced or teased for Wrestlemania. I just know it's going to be a chaotic match, which is a place where both of these guys thrive. It's a weird place to be in as a fan, because I want Shane to win, because you know, The Authority goes away. The child in me doesn't want the Undertaker to lose to Shane at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Velkontés on Mar 28, 2016 17:53:29 GMT -5
Well, it's a week away, and unless something wacky happens on Raw tonight, it looks like they really are going ahead with Shane vs Undertaker and their doomed-to-failure attempt to make Roman Reigns happen. Biggest Wrestlemania of all time and all that. The sad thing is that despite all the injuries, you can look up and down the card and find former World Champions and botched pushes in nearly every match. So they really only have themselves to blame.
I think this is the first Wrestlemania in a long time where, you know what, I really don't have much interest in it. And I'm saying that as someone who has actually plunked down money to watch it a few times in the last few years (despite torrents and youtube and all that). I'm sure I'll check out the results the day after and check out the clips, but that is about it.
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Post by MasterSnit on Mar 28, 2016 18:13:20 GMT -5
I haven't really watched much WWE the last couple of weeks. This one just hasn't grabbed me at all. I'll watch, and some of the matches will be good, I just don't really care too much about the big matches. The main event... I just do not care. Couldn't care less. Unless they pull some unexpected twist for the finish I can see this match being something like Triple H vs Orton from 5-6 years ago. Nobody cared about that one either.
I'm looking forward to Ambrose vs Lesnar, AJ vs Jericho, and Charlotte vs Becky vs Sasha the most. Undertaker vs Shane will be an enjoyable wreck of a match too. It's really just the main event that bugs me.
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Post by Velkontés on Mar 28, 2016 18:48:30 GMT -5
Unless they pull some unexpected twist for the finish I can see this match being something like Triple H vs Orton from 5-6 years ago. Nobody cared about that one either. Can you believe that was 7 years ago? At least with that we had Triple H invading Orton's Random Extra Refugee Camp. That was hilarious. Was that the time he DDT'd Steph? See, I've remembered 2 things from the run-up to that shitty match. I seriously doubt I'm going to remember anything from the build to this feud in 7 years' time. I'm sure some of the other matches will be good, it just doesn't have a big-event feel to me this time around, which even some of the more lacklustre Manias of recent years have had. And usually the event rises above the shitty booking, but the booking has been really curious recently. I guess the fact that the main event is a Triple H match and the other big event on the card is a Control of the Company match causes TNAish apathy in me.
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Post by MasterSnit on Mar 29, 2016 17:38:59 GMT -5
LOL. Control of the Company matches ruin everything. Even WrestleMania.
I did find it funny when Kevin Owens was supposed to be introducing Ziggler, Zayn and The Miz recently, and out came Zack Ryder, Sin Cara and Stardust instead. The ladder match might be decent. It has a nice mix of random wrestlers, a few feuds mixed together (everyone hates Kevin Owens) and a title on the line.
Why am I supposed to care about Kalisto? Ryback hasn't even battered him, stole his mask or fathered his only son yet. This feud is weak.
It's funny how the Usos seem to be getting hated recently. They are really stale, but I'm sure a lot of it is because they are Roman's cousins.
Does anyone know what the Rock or Stone Cold are doing at WrestleMania? Another promo I'm guessing.
I just remembered that Nia Jax in NXT is part of the clan Samoan Wrestlers. Maybe she can show up at WrestleMania and DDT Stephanie.
They will probably do it, but if they have Shawn Michaels interfere and get beat up by Reigns it's just going to make things worse as far as the hostile crowd goes. Even if Roman has Stone Cold raising one arm and the Rock raising the other at the end of the night, I still think 100,000 smarks are going to boo. Then boo even harder when Roman doesn't get a stunner.
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Post by Velkontés on Mar 30, 2016 12:40:53 GMT -5
You know what I would do if the whole stadium boos Reigns? Have him beat Triple H clean, and then just have him look disdainfully at the audience for a moment and walk to the back with the title. No confetti, no elaborate celebrations, no heel turn or anything like that. Just have him not give a shit about the audience.
Also, I promise to not clutter up the thread with betting lines like I did with the Rumble, but I have to mention: Becky Lynch is 7-1 outsider to win her match. Am I being crazy to think that is a terrific price?
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Post by MasterSnit on Mar 31, 2016 16:40:03 GMT -5
I think Becky will win the match. I also want her to win so maybe it's my heart ruling my head.
I just don't see Reigns winning and going on to have a face run as champion. I think they are going to pull a couple of swerves with Vince and Shane conspiring against the Undertaker, and then Reigns siding with Shane and Vince as champion. Reigns might even win with some help from the Rock, then beat him up to cement his heel turn at the end of the show with Vince and Shane at his side.
Anyone else going to check out the NXT Dallas show. Nakamura vs Zayn and Bailey vs Asuka should be good. I think we might see Balor's buddies show up also in his match against Samoa Joe.
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