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Post by Champ on Jun 29, 2013 9:10:28 GMT -5
It's weird though. I'm non stop moving, lifting, hitting the gym, and dieting and I haven't lost a pound this week. Then again, I've been taking creatine for better muscle performance because im getting older and my explosive power performance totally sucks now, and it makes you retain water in your muscles. That's weight alone right there. But the DDP yoga almost sounds like p90x lol
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Post by Naitch on Nov 8, 2013 14:46:42 GMT -5
I've been pretty quiet about it, but I have started taking Brazilian Jiu Jitsu pretty seriously over the last couple of months (as opposed to just dabbling in it). I've been selected to be in the over thirty team of a local tournament in January. Which means the BJJ aspect of my life has been intensified.
Why did I just write that, to be a braggart? Nope. I am looking to somehow drop an additional 18 lbs between now and then, and during the holiday season. I have already dropped from 203 lbs to 192 lbs through running 2 miles a day (like there is a goddamn murderer behind me), 50 push ups a day (that's where my push up stamina ends) and 3-6 intense BJJ sessions a week. My diet, for the most part is good, I have cheated a handful of times (it's not my fault there are peanut butter cups in my house, but there are peanut butter cups in my house, and I love those bastards so much.)
It seems like once I hit 192 (on Oct 23) my weight loss has plateaued out, which could be the peanut butter cups fault. But fruits, veggies, grass fed beef, chicken, etc are all major parts of my diet, so I just don't know what to do anymore. Advice please and thank you good sirs.
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Post by MasterSnit on Nov 9, 2013 17:47:17 GMT -5
It sounds like your exercises are staying the same which might be a reason as to why your weight loss has stopped and your weight is staying the same. I would suggest to simply try doing a little bit more than the day before and gradually increasing your exercise load. So maybe next time run two and a half miles like there is a goddamn murderer behind you, or do the two in future Jason Voorhees victim mode, then do an additional mile at a more reserved pace. As for the push ups, instead of doing fifty all at once, maybe do it in sets of 2x30 or 2x40, and gradually work up from there. As for the eating, generally you don't want to eat much carbohydrates later on in the day. Eat most of your carbs in the morning and afternoon, and later in the evening, as painful as it can be when you're watching TV and jonesing for a slice of pizza or a peanut butter cup, just stick with things like chicken salads or generally just lots of vegetables.
You have about two months so it should be possible. Just concentrate on pushing yourself more and more with the exercise and keep the diet stricter, especially in the evening. You have a goal to work towards which definitely helps.
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Post by Champ on Nov 9, 2013 22:56:43 GMT -5
Weight LOSS is tricky because a lot of it depends on the weight you are losing. I lost a ridiculous amount of body fat since January but only lost about 15lbs. A lot has to do with cardio/carbs and protein/muscle training. So say you are doing a lot of push-ups and eating a lot of chicken, you could lose a pound of fat and gain a pound of muscle that way. AND muscle weighs more than fat.
I was told the best thing to go by is the "belt rule". If you are 192 and still dropping belt sizes, you're still doing the right thing. If you are stuck completely, I would say eliminate more carbs and sugar, like MS said. You can increase your cardio, but at the end of the day, fucking diet is everything. It sounds like you are active enough.
I'm also having an awesome fitness run these days. Since the new year, I went from 218lbs and deadlifting around 375lbs to 203lbs and I deadlifted 515lbs the other day. A 15lbs weight loss with a 140lbs max increase is very rare. I'm turning 35 in August. If I keep up this pace I want to compete with my age and weight class in a year. I'm not even going to look into it unless I can pull 600 lbs first because some of the weight class records I read about are ridiculous.
But people, even personal trainers, told me if I'm trying to increase deadlift strength and power and lose weight at the same time, it will never work. The thing is I've been doing this whole fitness thing too long now. You definitely can lose weight and get stronger. I never understood that myth. The trick is to stop depositing food that goes to your fat instead of your muscle. I eat most my carbs at lunch because that's the meal my workout follows. So those carbs strictly go towards my workout energy and burn off. It's ALL about picking and choosing your carb battles. I lost only 15 lbs in 10 months, but I look like I lost like 25 -30lbs. It's because I did lose 25lbs, IN FAT. But when you lift the way I do and consume the amount of protein I do, there are muscle gains that follow too.
I was telling this kid at the gym on Thursday, remember these two rules, protein/muscle carb/fat. However you get your best workouts from carbs and that's where you burn it off. Choose your battles. If you want bigger muscles, increase your protein. You want less fat, decrease your carbs. If you want to LOSE POUNDS, fat or muscle, count calories. It's all a big chemistry experiment with a valid solution
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Post by Velkontés on Nov 10, 2013 6:01:47 GMT -5
If you want to LOSE POUNDS, fat or muscle, count calories. Yeah, counting calories (or at least having a rough idea of what you're consuming / burning off) is a good idea if you're not already doing it, Naitch. I find it instils more discipline having a number to stay under (I aim for 2700 calories a day to stay put), because sometimes you don't really realise how many calories are in what you eat.
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Post by Naitch on Nov 11, 2013 14:23:22 GMT -5
Thanks for all the input guys. I appreciate it. I do aim for around 1800-2000 calories a day. Here is a rough outline of my Monday-Friday routine, thinking if I give you this some lost nugget of advice will pop up, or you guys will have a better way at something.
8-10 AM: Wake up, meal preps, make sure I have a clean Gi, shower, TV time, whatever.
1030-1130 AM- Go to the BJJ practice shit with the rest of the over 30 team from my gym.
1130-1215 PM: Spar time with the MMA guys, so they know how much they need to improve there BJJ since they are a bunch of Muy Thai loving cock bags.
1215-230PM: Rush home, shower again, pack meals, go to work.
8 PMish: Go to the gym in my building. Push ups, run on the treadmill, light weight lifting ( I don't really need mass, just strength)..
11 PM: Get home from work
Midnight: Sleep
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Post by MasterSnit on Nov 13, 2013 17:24:43 GMT -5
Naitch, as I'm sure you are aware, most fighters competing at 175lbs don't really walk around at that weight until a day or two before they have to compete before bulking back up rapidly. So you could gradually lose the weight and get down to the weight more naturally over the next couple of months or you could dry yourself out that last week and lose the weight by eating measly amounts of chicken and drinking hardly any water. I would certainly recommend losing it gradually but there is also the quick and more debilitating option.
I'd definitely recommend upping the cardio in order to lose the weight. I would also suggest running outside instead of on a treadmill as running out in the elements and on the ground will likely make you work harder. Running and going nowhere on a flat treadmill can kinda lull people into a lazy rhythm I feel. Also, you're in Colorado, that high altitude will help take the pounds off when you are exerting yourself.
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Post by Champ on Nov 17, 2013 20:14:19 GMT -5
I used to run in the snow like rocky balboa in russia. Then 6 months later I was running in 100 degrees with high humidity. There's something to be said for that kind of conditioning. The biggest problem I had was it felt like someone took a baseball bat to my shins. I mean it really hurt some days. Hard running takes its toll.
2 years ago I was doing 5 miles on the treadmill some days. I guess everyone is different but, for me, if my diet wasn't good, I can do 15 miles a day and not lose weight. It sucks lol
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Post by MasterSnit on Nov 18, 2013 18:36:55 GMT -5
I think with trying to lose weight you can't keep doing the same things because your body will become accustomed to it and you will not sweat or stress yourself much by keeping doing something your body has become comfortable with. That's why I would recommend to Naitch to constantly up the cardio, together with a good diet of course, to get the weight off.
I get sore legs sometimes too with running and I run much more on grass and softer terrain these days which definitely helps. Don't push yourself too much too fast should be the rule to live by but I've been guilty of ignoring it at times. There have been times when I've had a niggle or two and stopped running for a while, then tried diving back in and doing the kind of distances I did a month or two earlier before I stopped for a while. Not a good idea. There have been times when I've done that and ended up with legs so stiff I could barely walk for the next couple of days.
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Post by MasterSnit on Dec 1, 2013 10:32:14 GMT -5
Naitch, how have things been going?
I'm not trying to lose weight or anything, but I have been eating really well the last three or four months. No sweets, fizzy juice, doughnuts, fast food, or anything like that and I'm feeling pretty good. Although I am looking forward more and more to Christmas now because I will no doubt relax things a little and eat some stuff that isn't very healthy. Some doughnuts and cheesecake will definitely be on the menu.
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Post by Naitch on Dec 2, 2013 12:07:44 GMT -5
Naitch, how have things been going? Dropped a couple of more lbs. Turns out I have to lose less then I thought so it that was a relief. So instead of 18 lbs it's 10. What I didn't really think of is that there is dozens of pro fighters at my gym. So I had a talk with a UFC fighter that gave me a good talking to about the ins and outs of weight cutting. So I emptied her brain, most of the advice was on the week before, so all of the advice here is still great. I have upped the run to 2.5 miles, my legs can't take the run everyday so I do it every other day. Add on that BJJ practice always leaves me drenched in sweat. Diet is still good, over all lost another 3 lbs. It isn't much but it is 3 less lbs to cut.
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Post by Champ on Dec 4, 2013 21:00:44 GMT -5
Hey 3lbs is 3lbs!
I was running 3 miles when I was 25-27 and I had the same issue. I just couldn't do it every day after a while. Like I mentioned, My shins wanted to cry all the time. There were times it felt like I got kicked really hard, and come to think of it, my lower back hurt a lot. I think the hard running contributed to my disk problems. There's nothing like hard running, but it's just that, hard on your body. I haven't had any problems since I've been running on the treadmill
I actually hit a personal record about 2 hrs ago. I deadlifted 530lbs tonight. I was talking to people tonight that were telling me I could compete now if I do the 198lbs class. I just have to drop like another 5-6 lbs. this kid was telling me that he participated in the 165lbs weight class last week for deadlift, bench and squat total and I would do good for my age and class. My bench is still at around 335 and my squat isn't far from 400, which is my weakest Area. i really should be able to do at least 450 considering my bench and deadlift. But I'm gonna start looking into competitions around the spring time
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Post by Naitch on Dec 6, 2013 17:09:39 GMT -5
Hey 3lbs is 3lbs! I was running 3 miles when I was 25-27 and I had the same issue. I just couldn't do it every day after a while. Like I mentioned, My shins wanted to cry all the time. There were times it felt like I got kicked really hard, and come to think of it, my lower back hurt a lot. I think the hard running contributed to my disk problems. There's nothing like hard running, but it's just that, hard on your body. I haven't had any problems since I've been running on the treadmill I actually hit a personal record about 2 hrs ago. I deadlifted 530lbs tonight. I was talking to people tonight that were telling me I could compete now if I do the 198lbs class. I just have to drop like another 5-6 lbs. this kid was telling me that he participated in the 165lbs weight class last week for deadlift, bench and squat total and I would do good for my age and class. My bench is still at around 335 and my squat isn't far from 400, which is my weakest Area. i really should be able to do at least 450 considering my bench and deadlift. But I'm gonna start looking into competitions around the spring time YEAH BOY! FUCK THOSE COMPETITIONS UP! I don't have specific advice for this, but like my teachers keep pounding in our heads, position before submission. Which really means, remember your technique or you won't do it right. But you got your technique, and I hope you clean house on this shit.
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Post by MasterSnit on Dec 21, 2013 16:44:18 GMT -5
Sounds like you've both got some positive things to strive towards. That's cool.
I've been getting fitter and fitter the last few months. I feel like I could go on running for ages. I've also been doing sprints and keep getting quicker. I did recently buy a supportive strap for one of my knees though because I've been getting constant pains it. Nothing too bad, but I can definitely do without it.
It's a good feeling though, I feel like I'm really good shape and keep improving all the time.
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Post by Naitch on Dec 21, 2013 17:46:15 GMT -5
Yeah MS! Run them miles! Just listen to your knee.
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