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Post by Naitch on Dec 2, 2008 15:10:40 GMT -5
What are albums that are older then 10 years old that are still awesome? For my two cents I'd have to say
Led Zeppelin/ IV- The only Led Zep album I can listen all the way through.
AC/DC/ Back in Black- Probably the best AC/DC album. Bon Scott had some good ones but IMO this is the bees knees.
Guns N' Roses/Use Your Illusion-I'm just combining the two but they are still very listenable. Much better then AFD.
Green Jelly/Cereal Killer- Still just as fun to listen to as when I was in the fifth grade.
Alice in Chains/Dirt-Not one filler track on a album filled with awesome.
Black Sabbath/everything with Ozzy-Uhmmmm, Dio isn't as good as Ozzy.
Metallica/Kill 'Em All-Black-Masters of they're craft.
Slayer/Seasons in the Abyss-Better then everything else they've done and I like to enjoy it every now and then.
Nirvana/Unplugged-If you haven't heard this for years now it is your loss.
Frank Zappa/Have I offended someone?- An album of his songs that offended people, its only problem is over time they are less offensive.
Tool/Undertow- Might be the best album ever.
Marilyn Manson/Portrait of an American Family-Lyrically may just haunt you for awhile.
Butthole Surfers/Electric Larryland- Had one hit off it but damn its a good album.
Aerosmith/Greatest Hits-Better then having to sit through any Aerosmith album.
Fear Factory/Obsolete- Like the only concept album since The Wall that you can tell is a concept album.
Pantera/Vulgar Display of Power- I probably don't have to tell you how awesome this is.
Spawn/Soundtrack-Can you name another soundtrack all your friends had? I can see how a lot of people wouldn't like it though.
Thats all I got for now but I'm sure I'll be back with more.
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Post by MasterSnit on Dec 2, 2008 16:41:55 GMT -5
Good call on the Aerosmith albums. There is some real shitty filler on some of their albums.
Also, I disagree with your favourite GNR albums. I like AFD and Lies better than Use Your Illusion.
I would suggest any "greatest" collection of Creedence Clearwater Revival songs.
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Post by Naitch on Dec 2, 2008 16:53:02 GMT -5
Good call on the Aerosmith albums. There is some real shitty filler on some of their albums. Also, I disagree with your favourite GNR albums. I like AFD and Lies better than Use Your Illusion. I would suggest any "greatest" collection of Creedence Clearwater Revival songs. You know what Use Your Illusion didn't that AFD did have? Rocket Queen. That alone makes UYI better. Aerosmith pretty much sucks when it comes to non singles. CCR pretty much just made awesome. I couldn't think of one album better then the rest or stuck out on its own. I guess greatest hits is where it would be.
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Post by MasterSnit on Dec 2, 2008 17:17:05 GMT -5
I remember how I first discovered CCR. I was young and impressionable and had saved up some tokens where, if you got so much you got some free CD's. So I sent them away and one of the CD's I requested was a Creed CD. However, when the package arrived, it wasn't a Creed CD but a CCR Greatest Hits. I was like, "What the fuck is this old shit?!". Then I listened to it anyway and enjoyed it and it's still one of my favourite CD's.
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Post by Naitch on Dec 2, 2008 17:18:28 GMT -5
I have a theory that all white people like CCR. I haven't been proven wrong by non wiggers. Wiggers don't count anyways, they're race traitors.
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Post by MasterSnit on Dec 2, 2008 17:23:59 GMT -5
You're probably right.
Some others I would suggest. Ummm...
A collection of Roy Orbison songs.
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Post by Naitch on Dec 2, 2008 17:28:47 GMT -5
Seriously, your just going to say a collection of Ray Orbison songs? Thats not flying in this thread buddy. If you mean greatest hits thats fine.
Heres one that I totally forgot. Queen/Classic Queen. Chances are Freddie Mercury is a better singer then anyone your thinking of at the moment your reading this.
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Post by MasterSnit on Dec 2, 2008 18:01:22 GMT -5
Ok, Greatest Hits then.
I never really liked Queen, I do like some songs but they are not a band I would listen to.
What about The Real Thing by Faith No More.
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Post by Naitch on Dec 2, 2008 18:40:49 GMT -5
Its all matter of opinion and never haven owned a FNM album I can't tell you.
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Post by Velkontés on Dec 2, 2008 20:05:11 GMT -5
some thoughts
The only _________ album I can listen all the way through.
Albums are too long these days. I don't see the point in a 60 or 75-minute long album with 20 minutes of music I'm never going to listen to. What's the point. Keep it short and sweet.
Black Sabbath/everything with Ozzy-Uhmmmm, Dio isn't as good as Ozzy.
Especially Sabbath Bloody Sabbath & Masters Of Reality
Metallica/Kill 'Em All-Black-Masters of they're craft.
I never liked the Black album. Master of Puppets rules.
Slayer/Seasons in the Abyss-Better then everything else they've done and I like to enjoy it every now and then.
Interesting, I'll have to check that one out, I like Reign in Blood.
Nirvana/Unplugged-If you haven't heard this for years now it is your loss.
Nirvana's still good.
Frank Zappa/Have I offended someone?- An album of his songs that offended people, its only problem is over time they are less offensive.
I like some of his stuff but it's way too variable to pin down one album as "good". He really sounds like an asshole, too.
Tool/Undertow- Might be the best album ever.
Another one I've never got round to.
Marilyn Manson/Portrait of an American Family-Lyrically may just haunt you for awhile.
I like the idea of Marilyn Manson more than, you know, I actually like his music.
I'd add (of stuff you might have heard of)
Soundgarden - Superunknown Rage Against The Machine's first still sounds good Dinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over Me Sonic Youth - EVOL (Daydream Nation is TOO LONG!) Pixies' albums are all good too Veruca Salt - American Thighs Pearl Jam - Ten (don't really like them otherwise)
I want to put a Springsteen album here but I haven't listened to any in ages
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Post by Naitch on Dec 2, 2008 22:10:13 GMT -5
All of this is really for V. Like I said this was all my two cents. I was curious what you guys would think as well. Anyways doing a little defending of choices.
I don't think enough albums are long enough. You see a lot more 30-45 minute albums then like hour + albums. But then again the quality has also suffered lately.
Seasons in the Abyss was really just my two cents for best older Slayer album, I like God Hates Us All the best but that doesn't qualify and I seem to be the only one that likes that album best.
Zappa was just flat out the man, and musically was super awesome. I think he talks to guys like us because for the most part we just agree with songs like Valley Girls and Jewish Princess.
You seriously need to check out Undertow by Tool. Its like being dragged through a dungeon but in the very last second you get out, a little beat up, but safe.
Portrait is the only album by Manson I would actually suggest to people. It came out before he was famous and before he decided the dark powers of Satan were the best way to sell albums. There is some quality stuff on there.
For your picks I would have to agree with that Pearl Jam album, but none others. How did they start to suck so bad after one album and why won't they go away?
I kind of have to agree with that Rage album too. I may not be a huge Rage fan but I guess I can't let personal bias get in the way.
I hated Soundgarden and haven't heard the rest of those albums. ALthough for 10 years I've been meaning to check out those bands.
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Post by Velkontés on Dec 3, 2008 0:59:18 GMT -5
I don't think enough albums are long enough. You see a lot more 30-45 minute albums then like hour + albums. But then again the quality has also suffered lately. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Shorter albums, more frequently, and cheaper. Although I'm not advocating releasing the same crap but 30% shorter, I'm advocating releasing 40 minutes of the good stuff and leaving the other 20 minutes for the inevitable "b-sides and rarities" compilation. I guess I'm saying I don't see the *value* in the extra twenty minutes. It's like if you see a movie, and they chop off 30 minutes of crap and show the 90 minutes of good, I don't feel cheated purely because I've got "less". Zappa was just flat out the man, and musically was super awesome. I think he talks to guys like us because for the most part we just agree with songs like Valley Girls and Jewish Princess. Sometimes he was great, sometimes he was ridiculuously self-indulgent. Sometimes he was right on the money, sometimes he sounded like an asshole. I mean, the good outweighs the bad, I'm just not ultra-high on him. His old pal Captain Beefheart is the god-like genius in my book. You seriously need to check out Undertow by Tool. Its like being dragged through a dungeon but in the very last second you get out, a little beat up, but safe. I keep hearing good things about it from a number of places, it's just laziness on my part. For your picks I would have to agree with that Pearl Jam album, but none others. How did they start to suck so bad after one album and why won't they go away? Because it wasn't enough for them to be rock stars, they had to be "artists" too? I kind of have to agree with that Rage album too. I may not be a huge Rage fan but I guess I can't let personal bias get in the way. I'm not a big far of the group - it's just a good album. Put it on, it rocks for 50 minutes, then it's done. I hated Soundgarden and haven't heard the rest of those albums. ALthough for 10 years I've been meaning to check out those bands. Of the bands I listed, I'd cautiously reccommend Dinosaur Jr. It's not heavy like Slayer, kind of a proto-Nirvana. Dude did angst pretty well:
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Post by Champ on Dec 3, 2008 1:59:16 GMT -5
You know I rarely ever disagree with you on music Naitch but I think AFD should be on that list before Use Your Illusion. Don't get me wrong I absolutely love the UYI albums but AFD is possibly one of the best albums I've ever heard. Hell, everything GnR did up til the UYI albums were golden, even Lies. It's hard not to put any of those albums on the "test of time" list. You guy all brought up great albums. I was actually going to say you forgot AC/DC Back in Black, but you put that at the top of the list and I scanned over it. I don't know what else to add.
That's funny because I thought I was the only one that thought Ten was the shit and that's it. I know Versus and a few of their other albums get a lot of credit but I feel like nothing they did compared to Ten.
As for Ozzy, I think the best solo Ozzy album is Blizzard of Oz with Diary of a Madman and No more Tears fighting for a close second.
Master of Reality and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath are awesome but I don't think you can deny Paranoid as their prime album. That album was from 1970 and songs from that album get played more than any other Ozzy material on the radio. But I would definitely put Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Master of Reality right after Paranoid. All 3 of those albums were the absolute bomb diggities. It's great to know that people still appreciate Sabbath. I still call them the inventors of Heavy Metal. Aside from Ozzy, we all know Ozzy's awesome, what about the rest of the band? Toni Iommi is the godfather of riffs. He is a riff god. I don't know how else I can blow smoke up his ass. Geezer Butler - possibly the most underrated bass player of all time. Then you have Bill Ward on drums. He was just such an awesome time keeper and had some crazy drum fills.
The same thing about Zeppelin bothers me. The rhythm section doesn't get near the credit they deserve. John Paul Jones and John Bonham were amazing but Plant and Page were the superstars, rightfully so, but I also appreciate rhythm sections more than most, with me being a bass player.
A lot of people may disagree with me on this. It's about Metallica and as we know Metallica fans rarely ever agree on anything. I'm going to have to say the Black album was their greatest "test of time" album. That album reached out to all masses whereas their previous albums were a little more brutal(which I also love) and the Load/reload albums strayed away from the diehard fans. I still don't understand why so many Metallica fans think Black wasn't nearly as good as their old stuff. That just baffles me because that album to me is the absolute shit and I LOVE Metallica's old shit too.
Tool Undertow is fuckin awesome too. Sober is one of my favorite songs ever
What about Stone Temple Pilots Core? That album still gets a shitload of play time
Also I would imagine one of Hendrix albums being on that list too.
Actually here are 2 really good ones that just came to mind as I was typing. I don't think anyone can deny, the Doors album with Light My Fire, Break on Through, Soul Kitchen, The End....etc. That album was an absolute hit. The second one I was thinking of is Pink Floyd's Darkside of the moon. Every song on that album is phenomenal too.
That I definitely can not disagree with you on that. Who is better than Freddy Mercury? Seriously! Is there any singer BETTER than him? There are guys that may be as good or put out hits with melodies as good as him but I don't think there's a singer in the world I can flat out say "he's better than Freddy Mercury". That guy might have liked taking the dick but if it made him sing better maybe we need a new fag prodigy. Mercury was really the shit and it's a shame we can never hear him live again
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Post by MasterSnit on Dec 3, 2008 14:30:57 GMT -5
Good call with Dark Side of the Moon.
I'd also suggest "Sign O' The Times" by Prince. I like it better than Purple Rain.
Also, "Definitely Maybe" by Oasis. They are a huge band over here, I'm a casual fan whereas many of their fans are fanatical. I like this one better than "What's the Story. Morning Glory".
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Post by Champ on Dec 3, 2008 17:59:52 GMT -5
Can't deny prince, even though I'm not a fan, dude's talented
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