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Raw
Jun 3, 2014 12:46:43 GMT -5
Post by Velkontés on Jun 3, 2014 12:46:43 GMT -5
If this was TNA Triple H would have turned on Evolution and joined the Shield. Batista's farewell wave was tremendous stuff.
Man, they are really clutching at straws with the World Title situation. It's not like Dan has a broken foot or a cracked rib or something. The dude has a neck injury. Cena came out last night and gave Steph a hard time while saying nothing of substance, but what else is she supposed to do? We're all supposed to think she is a colossal pregnant dog, but is her solution (Dan defends the title at the next PPV and if he's not cleared it's up for grabs) actually unfair? It really isn't, is it?
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Post by Champ on Jun 3, 2014 13:42:02 GMT -5
Yeah it's actually kind of ironic because Stephanie could've(and should've) stripped him by now. And how selfish is dan for letting his wife quit?
Cena is SO annoying when he cuts these respect promos leeching off other guys face heat. I don't know why they keep doing that. He doesn't need it. If you're not going to turn him heel just let people fucking hate him. Who cares? There are people that will never leave his side anyway
JR said something interesting. Someone said, what do you think of Seth Rollins turning on the shield. JR responded, "or did he?" That raises a good point! The shield said there's no depths they won't stoop to and dean said they don't care about getting beat down. This could be them turning trips master plan back around on him. The only reason I doubt that is because one would logically think that last night was the start to reigns road to wrestlemania. I think more than likely dean turns next. Then roman will be on team gay overcoming the authority and prob win the rumble
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Raw
Jun 3, 2014 16:11:02 GMT -5
Post by MasterSnit on Jun 3, 2014 16:11:02 GMT -5
If this was tna Seth and dean would've turned a long time ago, roman would be a former world champ already and roman would be with triple h now and somehow dean and Seth would be faces again and Seth would be visiting Batista in jail trying to turn his life around or some shit Lol. I forgot about that in TNA. They should have had Gunner sit down next to Shaw and just say, "Samuel. I'm here because I need someone new to feud with." I actually wasn't too shocked by Rollins' turn. I had heard that Batista was going to be disappearing for a while and felt that if a Shield member was going to switch sides, it would probably be Rollins. I can also see Ambrose being convinced somewhere down the line to turn to the dark side too, leaving Reigns with that WrestleMania sized mountain to climb as the heroic lone wolf babyface. Not too sure what I think of the turn, only because I love the Shield and that could signify the end of the group. I get the feeling Bryan is probably a bit healthier than they are saying and that he will wrestle at the next PPV. The angle is getting annoying though. I think I would have preferred if Bryan came out on his own one week and simply explained his injury and relinquished the belts without any other dramas to go with it. Then he could come back and do the chase thing all over again. I also have to mention that the 3MB - Matoritos feud is enjoyable. The match on Sunday was good, but the WeeLC match they had at the PPV after WrestleMania was the second best match of the night next to Shield vs Evolution. And Hornswoggle really did look like mutilated Chucky with that unfinished skullet he was sporting last night. Oh, and the booking of Paige really is abysmal. The Divas division is in the toilet again. Decent show last night, especially with the ending.
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Post by Champ on Jun 3, 2014 19:47:42 GMT -5
The reason I was shocked at Seth's turn is because when Batista quit I kind of figured the angle was done(even before he quit, after the ppv really). But when trips and Orton said they were on the same page and weren't going to stop I kind of figured they were going to bring someone else in like Brock or someone with that credibility. They really threw me off with that sudden Rollins turn. I mean, we knew the shield was going to break up. It had to happen eventually. But right then and there, never saw it coming. But I agree with MS. I'm actually kind of sad that the shield is breaking up. I really liked the unit, all 3 together.
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Raw
Jun 4, 2014 15:05:31 GMT -5
Post by Velkontés on Jun 4, 2014 15:05:31 GMT -5
Is everyone forgetting that The Shield were doing Triple H's bidding as recently as a few months ago? It's not like there isn't past form here. Ever since they first debuted, their motives have been nebulous. I'm not thrilled that they split them up, but this is one of those out-of-the-blue turns that actually makes sense when you think about it for a while. Also we get to see Rollins featured as a singles competitor before they bombard us with Roman's push.
It's a real head-scratcher, isn't it? She has all the tools but they seem to think just existing is enough.
This is what I would have done.
Paige beats Aksana & Tamina convincingly. Layla & Fox put up more of a fight but still lose handily.
Emma wins one of those shitty Diva Battle Royals to become the #1 contender.
At the PPV, Emma takes Paige to the limit, and Paige just escapes with the title after a roll-up or something gay.
At the following Raw the other divas are backstage and you pick your trollingest guy on the roster (so let's say Bad News Barrett) to point out that two rookies are making all these established vets look fucking terrible.
Paige can cut a short promo where she congratulates Emma on a good match and how we're the new blood yaddayaddayadda. Fox and Layla (or whoever you wish, I'm just picking Fox because she's being pushed at the moment) interrupt and are "you've only been around 5 minutes, we're former champions" etc etc.
This sets up a tag match at the next PPV, Fox and Layla vs Emma and Paige, where the heels FINALLY go toe-to-toe with them, and Fox pins Paige to win the match. It would really help if they used some wily veteran heel moves in this match to emphasise the story. Shouldn't have to say that, but I'm just saying. Oh, also, Fox wins with a MOVE rather than a roll-up. Pet peeve.
This sets up a bunch of singles matches where Fox and Layla prove real competition to Paige (she could even do this "get owned for 6 minutes and win in 7" routine at THIS point of the story) for a while.
Then you've got AJ returning... actually, no, seeing as this is a V post about divas, then SARITA comes in blahblahblah
That's 6+ month of Paige angles for you right there
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Post by Champ on Jun 5, 2014 22:14:33 GMT -5
Paige really is shit right now. It's all the booking. Emma, Paige, and Natalya "magically" have great matches in NXT. Then they're on a wwe show and suddenly they all suck. I don't know why the actual wwe shows don't let the talented girls just tear shit up like we know they can.
I also wanted to add that, besides Rollins heel turn, raw fucking SUCKED DICK. After a really decent ppv, they just came out on Monday and shit the bed. The entire show was just boring and stupid. But let's look on the bright side, at least we got ziggler vs del rio!......STOP WITH THESE FUCKING MATCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What's even worse is the guy that would've been good for the ladder match lost! I would've much rather had ziggler in the ladder match than del rio. God this fucking company is infuriating at times. Sometimes they give you some really exciting quality shit, then they turn around and piss all over your face. That show was just pure garbage and I was bored. If it wasn't for Rollins turn I would say it was the worst raw in recent memory
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Raw
Jun 6, 2014 18:04:15 GMT -5
Post by Naitch on Jun 6, 2014 18:04:15 GMT -5
Its been awhile since I've been caught up enough to type on WWE, so here are recent thoughts.
-In case you missed it, PAUL HEYMAN'S CLIENT BROCK LESNAR BROKE THE STREAK!
-I don't understand the Cena vs Wyatt feud at all. The best I can make of it is that they are fighting so people don't believe what Wyatt is saying about Cena?
-I caught on to the Rollins heel turn once HHH started talking about plan b. I just thought "Plan B is Rollins with two chairs. Fuck you for breaking up The Shield."
-Damien Sandow should probably suck someones dick in the back.
-It was weird that the only night worth watching on Batista's last run was his last night. Why was he growing out his hair? Keep shaving your head Tista.
-Luke Harper. Just Luke Harper. In that good way of course.
-You can't beat B N B!
-Roman Reigns legitimately scares the shit out of me.
-Are crowds going to catch the hint that Punk isn't coming back in the foreseeable future? It's only been 5 and half months now, so I can see how crowds are still hopeful that he didn't just walk out.
-At the next PPV I want to see Peter Dinklage as a guest referee for El Torito and Hornswoggle.
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Raw
Jun 8, 2014 13:52:14 GMT -5
Post by MasterSnit on Jun 8, 2014 13:52:14 GMT -5
I am pretty sure Rollins is attempting to out-cerebral assassin the cerebral assassin. The cool thing is I don't even think Ambrose and Reigns are aware of it. His promo about how only he knows why he did what he did solidified it for me. I can see a mirror image of the RAW finale happening at a PPV down the line where Rollins, Orton and Triple H close in on Ambrose and Reigns, only for Rollins to take a step back and wallop Orton.
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Post by Champ on Jun 8, 2014 22:39:21 GMT -5
I think Rollins is up to something too. I was thinking the same thing that reigns and Ambrose don't know what he's doing neither but somehow they'll accept it when Rollins reveals it, going back to what they said about how there are no depths they aren't willing to go through
I'm all for peter dinklage getting involved with Torito and swoggle!
I already got Luke Harper in my head going down as one of the most underrated ring workers in history. He's VERY solid and I just don't see him ever getting that recognition he really deserves. He even did a decent promo on Monday. The problem is his character is too much like skinner. Hopefully one of these days he will get a complete overhaul
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Raw
Jun 9, 2014 16:36:46 GMT -5
Post by Velkontés on Jun 9, 2014 16:36:46 GMT -5
Apparently Daniel Bryan isn't going to make it to MITB and they are going to hold the title up. Sure sucks to be Brie Bella, she lost her job for nothing.
I would dearly like them to put the title on Seth Rollins. The timing of his heel turn would make even more sense (hey, Dan is injured, do you want in this Title match or not? Just waffle Reigns with a chair and you've got the gig). It makes sense in the storyline, it's a fresh face... why not?
Side note: I want Big Show to referee a Hornswoggle vs Torito match, and at some point he picks them both up by the head, holds them in mid-air, and they flail away, unable to reach eath other.
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Post by Champ on Jun 9, 2014 17:05:06 GMT -5
See! If dan just gave up the title his wife would still have a job! Now they are both just two bums sitting at home with no titles and no money.
I'd be all for Rollins winning the belt. Heels don't need to be built up like faces to win the title. Heels just need to be hot and in the right spot. I think it's safe to say Rollins has the most heel heat right now too
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Raw
Jun 9, 2014 17:12:51 GMT -5
Post by MasterSnit on Jun 9, 2014 17:12:51 GMT -5
I'll be glad if Bryan has to relinquish the title. He's obviously injured and needs time to heal and a feud with Kane wasn't going to do anything for him anyway. I doubt they will put the title on Rollins, although I can foresee another snoozetastic Orton reign.
I also really like Luke Harper. Somewhere down the line I can see Wyatt maybe losing a big match and slapping Harper out of frustration, only for Harper to go all crazy eyes and clobber him. Crazy, ass kicker Luke Harper could work as a face.
Torito would probably hurricanrana Big Show and pin him in that situation.
I still like Champ's idea from years back where they have a mini Royal Rumble. So all these little guys come out to the ring, Hornswoggle, El Torito, Dink, Jerry Smaller, J.B.Elf, Micro Cole, etc, and they are battling away. Only for Rey Mysterio to come out and the commentators start going crazy like he's some sort of beastly Hoss. "By Gawd, look at the size of this man! He's a monster!"
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Raw
Jun 10, 2014 13:46:45 GMT -5
Post by Velkontés on Jun 10, 2014 13:46:45 GMT -5
-Damien Sandow should probably suck someones dick in the back. Obviously he didn't follow your sound advice Naitch. I was thoroughly entertained by him this week, though. They gave him something rubbish and he did a good job with it. Sheamus vs Barrett was aces. I'm guessing they've probably wrestled a dozen times by now, but I didn't see all those matches, so this still came off fresh to me. Sheamus being a sneaky bugger amuses me. The ref pulled Barrett away allowing Sheamus to kick him in the head. HHH and Steph were being so on-the-nose that for a moment I thought Dan's injury was a work. I thought it was going to be a fake doctor, for example. But no. They did the right thing, if the guy can't go then get the title off him and let him heal from his fucking NECK injury. Lana's shtick is so lame. I know the rest of you love her, but they are trying way to hard for what is essentially the cheapest heat in wrestling. Putin on the big screen every week! Waving a Russian flag! Now residing in Moscow. Lame. The booking of Paige is getting comical. Oh hey, she gets her ass kick for 95% of the match then hits a move and slaps on a submission and gets the tap-out. Haven't seen that before. Actually, the booking isn't hurting Paige so much as it's hurting the entire division. I've said before that AJ was Cena and the rest were jobbers... Paige makes AJ look bad. Like, really bad. That is how far above the rest of the division Paige is. And they book her like this. Baffling. Seth's promo was money. Ambrose comes across as a phoney to me. I know the Internet loves him, good for him, but his mannerisms are so over-the-top I just can't take him seriously. Reigns is a weak promo. I know the money is on Reigns, but Seth is way more of a finished product. I get the potential that people see in Reigns, but there is nothing he does that Rollins doesn't do better (other than that mysterious X factor), and this angle has the potential of making Seth happen.
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Raw
Jun 11, 2014 15:34:09 GMT -5
Post by Naitch on Jun 11, 2014 15:34:09 GMT -5
Everyone in the Shield and Ex-Shield said something that I am hoping was not throw away lines.
Seth Rollins said that Dean Ambrose would be dead to his on devices in a week. I need crazy out of control Dean Ambrose. He also said that Roman Reigns doesn't know how to control his anger. I would love to see crazy out of control rage monster Reigns.
Roman Reigns said to HHH that "we're gonna have our own Game of Thrones, believe dat." For anyone not smart on that, Game of Thrones is a book and TV series on the premise of mid-evil times political back stabbing and murder to take the throne to rule the land. Please let that happen, Roman Reigns can be WWE's The Mountain (despite how much The Mountain has upset Champ in the last couple weeks.)
Dean Ambrose really just talked about mutilating Rollins, so I guess he was trying to be the WWEs Ramsey Bolton.
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Post by Champ on Jun 18, 2014 21:06:17 GMT -5
Hey a good raw last night! I would go as far as to say it was the best raw since the day after mania. It had an exciting attitude era feel to it, not so much in the content, but in the way they booked it. It had that "anything can happen" edgy feel to it, as opposed to, here's sheamus vs del rio....again.....cuz fuck you. One thing you can make the argument on is, there were hardly any clean finishes to the matches. But that doesn't bother me on eps of raw if it's done right and it's for the sake of furthering a storyline. PPVs are a different story...excuse me, "special events".
I'm actually going to try and review raw in the right order this time.
Opening segment was a little cheesy but it set a necessary tone for the show I suppose. I'm just sick of cena obviously overcoming the odds and able to see it from light years away. See, with cena it was totally done in typical cena cookie cutting fashion, but I really liked how they did it with reigns, which I'll get to later.
Rollins vs ziggler was a cool match. I really think these guys are actually capable of much better, only because I have high expectations of a ziggler/Rollins match. But still good, and most importantly it's FUCKING DIFFERENT! Yay! I know we saw it on smackdown too, but hey, I'll take a match for the 2nd time over a match for the 200th time. Then Ambrose interferes for the dq and then it's BNB vs. Ambrose impromptu....wait a sec, we've never seen this match at all I don't think. Wow, are they really giving us NEW SHIT??!!
Again, another decent match. Ambrose really shined on his own last night too. His new music is cool too. Overall he was really exciting and bad news Barrett is also much better when he's not being dragged down by guys like that boring one dimensional son of a B rvd.
Then we get roman reigns backstage fucking with Vickie and spiking the helmsleys coffee which was pretty funny.
Then bray Wyatt cuts a promo. Brays a good promo but his promos are kind of irritating me. I think because bray Wyatt promos are becoming the promo version of the matches we've seen 200 times. They need to cut back on the promos so it feels more special when we get one. I feel like we get at least two bray promos a week. Then it's followed by sheamus cutting a cheesy promo and then we get bray vs sheamus. Again, another new match! Again, I liked this match. Something was in the air with raw. None of the matches were 5 star amazing but they were all good to exceptionally well.
Ahhh the old accidental coffee spill where only one person gets the brunt of the drugging.
So wwe keeps slater, he cuts a face promo, then gets squashed in 20 seconds. Rusev is SLIGHTLY growing on me in the sense that I'm starting to take him seriously. I just want to see him in a real feud soon. I'm sick of the squashes.
I'm not a fan of puke. I don't know if I ever said that. But puke segments bother me, even if it is comedy.
Kevin hart is a sawed off tool. I kind of enjoyed the mixed tag match with rose and summer vs fandango and Layla. But the rose excitement is wearing off for me. I feel like they are just going to start hitting epics heights of goofballism with him eventually
That battle royal was a lot of fun and one thing I think I can say is wwe did a great job getting each shield member over. I felt like all 3 guys were red hot individually at raw. The showdown between rusev and reigns at the end was great. It was one of those chemistry experiments gone exceptionally well. It was the most emotion I've ever felt in a rusev moment too.
I think turning Cameron heel is the way to go. I want to hate her. But Naomi seems cool so it actually makes sense to cause tension and split them with Cameron being the major b1tch. And GOD how fucking boring can Paige get. This is a chick that was booked well and had great matches on NXT and showed a lot of personality. It's like there's a requirement to be awesome in developmental so they can go suck on raw. It's weird.
Cena vs Kane was a decent match. I don't need to go into detail. We are all pretty much on the same page with cena now. We are past that whole 2007 "cena is a wrestling cancer" mentality, but let's call a spade a spade, this motherfucker is STALE! But as long as there is a make-a-wish and a clothing designer we will have to put up with him for god knows how much longer.
All in all I found it to be an exceptionally decent show
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