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Post by Champ on Aug 30, 2012 1:39:41 GMT -5
I do think he has a better shot than Matt Hardy though lol. But I totally see what you're saying. It's like the John Morrison/Matt Hardy disease. They made an impact and you're definitely going to remember them for being overall decent talent but they just lacked "it" in the end. JEFF Hardy has "it". He always did. You really can't coach that
Cody is basically a midcard Kane right now. He's just a floater to keep things moving along. He's got enough credibility to fill up time but he really isn't doing much. Not for anything, but Sin Cara sucks and it's not doing Cody any favors either
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Post by Velkontés on Aug 30, 2012 16:14:19 GMT -5
I do think he has a better shot than Matt Hardy though lol. You know, I think I'm actually going to have to disagree with you. Years back, I think people thought Matt had a good shot. His v1 gimmick was well received. And he was always a good hand in the ring. Then he bombed with that promo when he returned against Edge and that sealed his fate. I don't think the Ziggler title farce with Edge had quite the same enormously negative impact as that, but it certainly hurt his credibility. And I just don't think he has the personality or connection or gimmick or character to overcome that. Just like Matt Hardy didn't. He's a midcarder, not a main eventer. If Cody had conclusively gotten the better of Christian, and then Sin Cara, and then some other guys, then you would have had a viable feud for Sheamus at the end of it. Instead they have him lose most of the time. Sheamus has been on a hot streak lately, it's almost as though they're trying to make him look even better by having everyone else on the roster bat .500.
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Post by Velkontés on Sept 2, 2012 12:27:43 GMT -5
God, they had Sheamus come out and tell us what a great fella Triple H is. Cody jobbed to Rey Mysterio after messing around with his mask. And Randy Orton faced Dolph Ziggler in one of those "it feels like they've faced each other a million times already (it could be the first time for all I know)" matches. Smackdown has really fallen into a rut.
On the other hand, Kaitlyn had her most recent best match ever. I'm just wondering if they'll put the belt on her and then have AJ start dicking around with her.
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Post by MasterSnit on Sept 4, 2012 15:40:45 GMT -5
Yeah, SmackDown hasn't been great lately. I'll tell you what they need. What they need is T. Long back, large and in charge, Playah. Ya feelin' me?
"To appoint Booker was wrong. Bring back Teddy Long!" Let's get Eve running around naked and chanting this.
The show just needs a spark to ignite it. It's not that the show is bad, they just seem to be unwilling to really fire up the feuds. Most, if not all of the SmackDown guys are on RAW, so it's as if they are treating SmackDown as a show where things just carry on after RAW before something potentially exciting happens again the next week on RAW.
There have been good things. Eve making a fool of Turtle the other week was bloody hilarious. Sandow's progression is good. Kane. "I'm sorry Josh!" *chokeslam* LOL
We were talking about Ziggler recently and why he isn't really believable as a main event guy. I think he suffers from a similar problem as John Morrison. It doesn't matter what he says, when he opens his mouth his voice just doesn't grab your attention and make you want to listen to him. Ziggler can come out and say he's going to murder Sheamus' poor old granny back in Ireland and feed her body to the sheep, but it probably still wouldn't come across as very threatening. No doubt Ziggler can go out and deliver a great wrestling match, but he doesn't exactly look like he can kick your ass, and he definitely doesn't sound like he can kick your ass either. I think they should have turned Ziggler face when he split up with Swagger.
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Post by Champ on Sept 4, 2012 20:19:00 GMT -5
That's probably the main reason Smackdown isn't firing on all cylinders right now. Smackdown was at it's consistent best during the prime years of the brand split.
The best part of Smackdown, roughly 2006 to 2010 when the seperate brands were really eastablished 2 different programs, was seeing guys with no direction on Raw getting drafted to Smackdown and a whole new line of pushes beginning. It was cool because it was something fresh. When we had the same old main eventer shit on Raw, Smackdown was giving us something different and showcasing the talents full potential
And V, I totally know what you mean about seeing Zigs vs Randy a million times, even if we've never seen it more than once or twice or ever. Randy and Zigs really need some sort of repackaging. Both have become so damn generic lately
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Post by Snitskyman2016 on Sept 8, 2012 16:54:34 GMT -5
So Booker T banned the Bro Kick on Smackdown because of an incident that did not even happen on Smackdown? Why was Ricardo in the ring anyway? he does not belong in the ring ever.
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Post by Champ on Sept 10, 2012 14:13:20 GMT -5
I personally love the Brogue kick. It's one of those finishers that can be hit out of nowhere like SCM, even when Sheamus is getting wrecked. The instant lights out finishers are great climaxes to big matches
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Post by MasterSnit on Sept 20, 2012 17:14:05 GMT -5
Is it just me, or has Booker T been a complete jackass of a GM so far? It's like he sees Teddy standing there and thinks, "OK, what would Thaddeus do in this situation, and how can I outstupid him?"
Eve has been hilarious the way she makes a fool of Turtle, but he isn't even the dumbest person in the group.
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Post by Velkontés on Sept 23, 2012 7:24:35 GMT -5
It was basically the Dan & Kane show this week on Smackdown. The opening segment was great. It doesn't matter how often they do it, every time they make passing mentions of Kane's wacky angles ("hey, remember when you tombstoned the priest at my wedding") it always gets a laugh out of me.
To steal a line from Champ: I would bang the living shit out of Eve. I also love this sly gimmick she has going on. Shame the rest of the Divas Division is pants.
Watching Vickie and Ricardo bicker was the only interesting thing going on during that Same Old Shit Tag Match.
Raw Recap: yeah, I would bang the living shit out of AJ too.
tumbleweed
Annnnnyyywaaaay,
The International Coalition of Jobbers have formed just in time for Survivor Series! Great!
There's nothing like whaling on jobber tag teams to bring people closer together.
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Post by Champ on Sept 23, 2012 11:20:32 GMT -5
Even though it was 75% Dan and Kane I loved every minute of it. Smackdown kept me going just to see how they were going to behave like 12 year olds next.
The other thing that had me laughing from the opening segment is when Edge started yelling over the bickering, ENOUGH! STOP IT!
Kane: Edge you seem angry Dan: yeah why so mad Edge? Kane: You know Dr Shelby has some great relaxing techniques you should try
LOL, fucking gold
My favorite part of the night was when Kane goes to the back furious like he was going to kill Dan and rip his beard off his goat face, and Dan pops up from his hiding spot,
Dan: I do not have have a goat face! Kane:.......DO TOO! Dan: DO NOT! Kane: DO TOO! Dan: Well you're a big red freak! Kane: You have a goat face!
The second Kane said, DO TOO!, like a big kid, I fucking lost it. Normally Kane would've destroyed him on the spot so it was so unexpected to see him act childish instead lol
I watched the entire Smackdown and ironically the one I forwarded all the way through was Orton/Sheamus vs Ziggler/Del Rio. Seriously, if I have to see those 4 in the same dance one more time I'm going to shoot my tv. It's bad enough that Ziggler, Del Rio, and Orton are driving me nuts lately and now they're all in the same segment. I feel like Sheamus is doing better and better every week but he automatically sucks by association these days.
I don't think they should have Dan and Kane hold Smackdown hostage every week with a million appearances but that one episode was a lot of fun for this one time.
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Post by Velkontés on Sept 23, 2012 14:46:40 GMT -5
Yeah, Kane's delivery was spot on this week. I mean, it helped that he had some good lines, but he still needed to knock them out of the park. And he did.
Yeah, I agree, if they had this much D&K every week it would get old pretty quick (especially as they're on both shows). But that was probably the most fun episode they'll do this year.
Isn't it great that they really care about those tag belts, too?
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Post by Champ on Sept 24, 2012 12:52:41 GMT -5
Yeah this is the most exposure the tag belts have gotten since the 1980s lol.
"I'm the tag team champions" has become such an awesome line
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Post by Velkontés on Sept 30, 2012 11:41:55 GMT -5
Big Show comes out for a promo. Now here comes Orton (who doesn't mention that he beat Sheamus in the Cell last year). Now here comes Del Rio. It was a Same Old Shit Circle Jerk.
That was easily the best Divas match of the year. I actually marked out a little bit when Natalya no-sold the Glam Slam. Of course, Booker doesn't watch his own damn show. I love Eve. Eve rules.
I didn't hate Barrett's last theme, but his new one is a lot better. On the other hand, Ryback's theme isn't bad but that "feed me more" at the beginning is gay. It looks like Ryback is going to happen.
Cole: "oh no, not the furniture AGAIN". That made me laugh.
Nothing seemed to happen this week.
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Post by Champ on Sept 30, 2012 12:22:12 GMT -5
Booker is SERIOUSLY stupid! Teddy is a genius GM compared to him. It's like he's blind to everything. Then he's banning finishers and reinstating them and confusing everything. Now he's buying into Eve's clear bullshit. He doesn't know what happens in his own ring. He's a dumbass
I was so happy when Orton RKO'd Del Rio the second he got in the ring. It told me that the annoying typical stale Smackdown opening segment we've been getting for a year, that I thought was going to drag out for yet another 5 minutes, was being put to a halt. God, Smackdown is in the toilet right now
I think Ziggler is the worst awesome wrestler of all time. How can you be arguably the BEST guy in the ring and just suck at everything else?
Yeah V, it looks like Ryback is going to happen. Now that he kicked Tensai's ass and didn't even have to fight that hard to do it, he's basically more on a roll than Cena, Sheamus, and Orton right now
So, we're going to get Sheamus vs. Show in a cell. Hey, not for anything, but that's BETTER than Sheamus vs. Del Rio in a cell! So I'll take it. Plus Sheamus and Big Show has a very slight Koslov/Festus ring to it, just a little. In other words, it's not a completely uninteresting match up(Show and Sheamus)
And I agree, if the divas got to work the type of matches Beth and Natty had this week, the divas division would probably not be in the toilet. You figure with a 3 hr Raw, they could at least give the divas an extra lousy 5 minutes to be interesting instead of having 3 minutes matches with boring finishes. It's better than getting a million doses of Sheamus, Del Rio, Orton, Ziggler, and Kofi.
Did V or anyone ever mention WWE is stupid sometimes? Because, WWE is stupid sometimes.
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Post by Velkontés on Sept 30, 2012 14:05:47 GMT -5
Booker is SERIOUSLY stupid! Teddy is a genius GM compared to him. It's like he's blind to everything. Then he's banning finishers and reinstating them and confusing everything. Now he's buying into Eve's clear bullshit. He doesn't know what happens in his own ring. He's a dumbass It's also pretty funny because Eve's heel turn was based around using men to get what she wants. Booker obviously wasn't paying attention. It doesn't seem like long ago that he was still squashing jobbers and Curt Hawkins. Now he's beating The Miz and Tensai. It kinda feels like he should have had a couple more months of Drew McIntyre, Justin Gabriel and Hunico type people before stepping up to that level. But oh well. McMahon should hire you. I want to see this match now. That's really all I'm asking for. One match a week that doesn't suck. Eve, Layla and Natalya are okay. With the recent exodus they're going to have to make a few hires. Angelina Love wouldn't be a bad pickup. Obligatory SARITA mention. There must be a few competent indie workers they can pad things out with? I mean, they don't ALL have to be bombshell hot, do they? (although obviously Sarita IS bombshell hot).
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