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Post by Velkontés on Jun 3, 2012 17:38:48 GMT -5
I read that Flair might be gone from TNA for good because he decided to just do what he pleased during the first one with Alex Silva which lead to Silva getting a contract. After it I wondered if it is maybe a work, but would that make sense? I guess anything makes sense in TNA, but I'm not sure. It just seems like another typical TNA fuck-up. Oh, it was a work (with perhaps a little adlibbing sprinkled in), it was just a really dumb work. They wanted the first guy to win a contract to push the concept. The first guy was dull. They wanted the second guy to lose to push the idea that only a select few would get in, and they were absolutely determined to stay with it even when the second guy had a good showing. It's just s h i t t y w r i t i n g. And they could have re-taped or editted the first gut check (or had one of the other judges change his mind to "no"), so I don't really buy the Flair thing. Brooke Hogan is going to make us yearn for the days of Karen Angle. Wouldn't it put the knockouts over more to have HULK HOGAN take an interesting in their division, rather than delegate it to someone else? TNA needs to learn that sometimes less is more. Although I look forward to the day when Sarita has had enough of that shit and chokes Brooke out.
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Post by Champ on Jun 3, 2012 22:01:11 GMT -5
You know Brooke's turning heel within 6 months right?
And Joey Ryan is original, he can talk, he can wrestle, and totally stands out as his own person.
VOTE: No
Stupid company
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Post by Velkontés on Jun 5, 2012 10:32:40 GMT -5
You know Brooke's turning heel within 6 months right? Somehow I don't see Brooke being there in 6 months. You know, I don't even think Ryan was that amazing or anything, it's just that he showed a lot more ring ability and personality than Silva. He has mid-card Robbie E type potential. If they had given the thumbs down to BOTH guys then there wouldn't have been a problem. TNA has enough guys on the roster to be giving marginal talent contracts (only to send them to Daffney's Prison). One thing they could do is have a Silva vs Ryan match at the next PPV with the contract on the line. That would sort things out.
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Post by Champ on Jun 5, 2012 22:40:23 GMT -5
Well that's what it was for me. They gave boring ass Silva a contract when he lacked in so many areas. Then they pointed out all of Joey Ryan's attributes and then turned him down. And, to point out that I'm not being too naive, even if it's a work and not a shoot segment, it doesn't make it less stupid
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Post by MasterSnit on Jun 6, 2012 14:21:54 GMT -5
Joey Ryan made a video. I'm still not convinced it is a work. Nothing would be surprising though, seeing as this is TNA.
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Post by Velkontés on Jun 7, 2012 0:14:47 GMT -5
It's a work. But Ryan's going to get as much mileage out of its unexpected notoriety as possible. That wasn't a bad video, actually. It's funny that he brought up my Daniel Bryan point from a few posts back. What an incredibly dumb reason that was for saying no.
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Post by MasterSnit on Jun 7, 2012 14:41:35 GMT -5
If they mention Joey Ryan in any significant detail on the show tonight then I'll jump in with the "It's a work" crowd, but as of right now I just don't know. I don't know if anyone has ever mentioned this, but TNA is stupid. So it simply isn't unthinkable that they flushed away any promise Gut Check offered after only the second week of it.
If it is mentioned, I can't wait to hear Taz further explain his role in the whole fiasco. Not that I actually want to listen to Taz try to make sense of it. It's simply morbid curiosity to see if he can outstupid himself after last week's words of wisdom.
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Post by Naitch on Jun 8, 2012 11:22:06 GMT -5
Here is Naitch's past three weeks of TNA thoughts:
Three weeks ago: Cable was out, read online Joey Ryan had a match against Austin Aries, disappointed I missed it since I'm a fan of both guys.
Two Weeks Ago: I enjoyed the shit out of anything involving Dixie Carter and Daniels, not Dixie Carter and Brooke Hogan though. Like what has been repeated before, the stupidity of Bruce and Taz was overwhelming. Al didn't like him but could get past that, but Al will lose all those points in the week 3 write up of this post. Joey Ryan is so dirty and filthy, who can't get behind that? I enjoyed all the small things Ryan was doing while the "pros" were speaking to him.
Last Night: Whoa, Joey Ryan follow up? Al loses his cool points for cutting Joey Ryan off during that backstage promo. Don't stick a camera in a dude's face if you don't want a shoot promo, which from what I understand, the Gut Check thing is all shoot. Taz tried to explain his side of things but I'll be damned if I can remember a word he said.
The Bully Ray/Joseph Park segment was awesome. Then Joseph Abyss had to ruin it, I mean that was obviously the same guy, since I don't remember seeing a clean shaving Abyss in ever.
The best thing Daniels ever did was last night. And that to get Dixie's husband to punch Dixie's boyfriend.
Who would have guessed that AJ would have run in late in the main event and help his team get the win? What a wonderfully new and innovative ending to a six man tag.
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Post by Velkontés on Jun 9, 2012 6:57:49 GMT -5
Al loses his cool points for cutting Joey Ryan off during that backstage promo. Don't stick a camera in a dude's face if you don't want a shoot promo. Yeah, Ryan getting in Snow's face was good stuff. I'm half expecting him to run-in during the World Title match next week (and help Roode retain, obv). I agree, Daniels has been solid gold with this Dixie angle. Daniels interrupting Dixie was great. As was AJ doing the Shawn Michaels sell for Serge. I also have to admit that I laughed at Dixie's bleep-strewn rant at the beginning, and the fact the TNA production crew didn't know what the hell was going on. What a surprise. You get so used to wrestling being funny that you never stop to think "the production guys running tape showing their BOSS in a bad light is really stupid". Why do I have the feeling that they don't actually know where they're going with this AJ & Dixie angle? Country music dudes wanting Velvet in their video instead of Hardcore Country is pretty funny. That's some nice booking. Brooke Hogan isn't a good talker. She's a big girl. She probably should have tried wrestling. I wonder if they'll run a Gail vs Sarita match at BFG. Because I suspect that would be a really good match. And Gail has wrestled nearly everyone now. I really enjoyed this week's show, although it was a little light on good matches. Maybe an A- kind of show.
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Post by MasterSnit on Jun 10, 2012 13:52:35 GMT -5
I'm also loving Daniels right now. AJ getting clocked by Dixie's husband (who is probably banging Madison anyway) was funny. Judging by the lengths they are going to, this surprise birthday party for Dixie's husband must be a shaping up to be a real humdinger. So what if he thinks his wife is cheating, the look on his face when he sees the relatives he hates and the Nickelback cover band will be worth it. When Dixie's husband was leaving the ring, did anyone hear the guy in the crowd shouting, "Yeah, do it! You gotta do what you gotta do!". That was funny. 'There can be only one' on AJ's shirt was also amusing.
Speaking of Madison, her boner is for Garrett. It has to be him. God, I hate that guy.
More Joey Ryan stuff this week so yeah, it's a work. I have no idea where they are going with it or how it is all going to make sense (it won't make sense) but hey, it's interesting at least.
Moncovermegenitals picking Velvet for his music video is funny. Mickie had 'heel turn' written all over her face upon hearing that. Now that Brooke is decent in the ring and is winning matches, I find her much more attractive.
Can we officially declare Devon vs Robbie E. the Kofi Kingston vs Jack Swagger of TNA?
So they are turning Joe into a whiny little pregnant dog heel again. Haven't we suffered enough?
Roode's "I'm not done yet" promo was good.
Yeah, it was a good show this week.
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Post by Velkontés on Jun 10, 2012 15:21:00 GMT -5
AJ Styles vs Christopher Daniels is the Swagger/Kingston of TNA. This Robbie E vs Devon feud is the Chavo/Hornswoggle feud of TNA.
And yeah, turning Joe heel again is uninspiring. I guess Magnus is getting sent to Daffney's Prison. Gay.
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Post by Velkontés on Jun 12, 2012 14:29:36 GMT -5
Now that Brooke is decent in the ring and is winning matches, I find her much more attractive. I dunno, I found her pretty attractive when she was rubbish. I do like that she disappeared to Daffney's Prison for a few months and actually improved her craft during that time. She actually plays a good fiery babyface, and sure shows Velvet up. It also amused me that Gail tried to beat Tessmacher with her own move and failed. That's some nice continuity (and booking). Can't really complain about Storm ending the "streak". I had an idea that they could set up the BFG series in such a way that Storm would have to beat Crimson in the final match (at a PPV, obviously) to get the title shot. But I suppose that would be telegraphing it a bit. And I knew Anderson would win because he's the only one who hasn't had a pop at Roode, and they need a sacrificial lamb for that title shot on Impact.
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Post by MasterSnit on Jun 14, 2012 6:24:26 GMT -5
It also amused me that Gail tried to beat Tessmacher with her own move and failed. That's some nice continuity (and booking). I didn't realise the PPV was in Texas, otherwise I would have picked her to win. She's as good a choice as anyone to take the title from Gail, so I was glad she won. Yeah, I suppose. I think Crimson will be far more interesting now that he isn't "undefeated". That was my thinking too. They are saving either Jeff or Storm to take the title from Roode, I feel. It was a decent PPV. Some really good matches. Aries vs Joe was the first match and the best match of the night. I think there were three in-ring segments with either Hulk or Dixie just standing there yapping. Save that stuff for Impact. We already get enough of it on TV every week. Bully Ray vs Joseph Park was as amusing as I hoped it would be. Not sure who Abyss2 is though. Oh, and in the most highly anticipated match of the night, after seconds of suspense, hype and build, a suddenly face Hernandez beat Kid Kash in a good little match.
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Post by Champ on Jun 16, 2012 2:52:44 GMT -5
- I agree about Tessmacher being a good face. She was actually the right chick to put the belt on. She's got a really sexy, confident, yet fan friendly way about her. It just works. Fuck Velvet.
- Storm was definitely a good guy to end the streak, especially with the direction they've been going with him.
- The AJ/Dixie thing seems like it'll have a twist to it like there was something that made it look like they were having an affair but it was actually something else
- Bully Ray may be the best heel in wrestling right now. The guy just has that heel "it". I also hope Joseph Park sticks around for a while. Kayfabe aside, Chris Park is showing just how talented he really is pulling off these complete opposite gimmicks and really making you feel like it's 2 people.
- Having Roode making one of the more popular babyfaces tap out made such a huge difference for me with Roode's title run. He's been annoying me for a while because he just keeps coming out and talking about how great he is but weasels his way out of every match, which is great heeling to an extent, but becomes cheap after a while when he should've lost to just about every guy he defended the title against. But, by making Anderson tap out it's like saying, oh by the way, Roode's also the world champ because he's really good too. It just added a nice touch for me and made him seem more like he's the real deal and not a flash in the pan that gets lucky every time
Now Aries is getting a titles shot.
Wow this is scary, TNA actually did all the right things this week! It'll be funny to see how they fuck it all up next week
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Post by Velkontés on Jun 16, 2012 8:30:28 GMT -5
- Having Roode making one of the more popular babyfaces tap out made such a huge difference for me with Roode's title run. He's been annoying me for a while because he just keeps coming out and talking about how great he is but weasels his way out of every match, which is great heeling to an extent, but becomes cheap after a while when he should've lost to just about every guy he defended the title against. But, by making Anderson tap out it's like saying, oh by the way, Roode's also the world champ because he's really good too. It just added a nice touch for me and made him seem more like he's the real deal and not a flash in the pan that gets lucky every time You know what I think they should do? Turn Booby Roode face. I mean, it's not like Roode cheated in that steel cage match against Storm. Storm was just dumb. And Hogan's been getting on his case. The problem (if you can call it a problem) is that Roode is too good to be a weasley heel. Eventually people are going to be rooting for the guy to overcome the odds in a cool-heel kinda way. Seriously, Roode doesn't actually cheat as much as they make out. Hogan putting Aries over was good. Hogan asking Aries to relinquish the X Title was bad. I was so pleased that Bischoff isn't in the BFG series. I really like this year's lineup. Giving the overwhelming (face) favourite a 20 pt head start is a curious booking choice though. One thing I loved about the Battle Royale was that I was totally expecting Angles to counter Daniels after he'd thrown Styles out. Instead Daniels threw Angle out too. Awesome. Hernandez not coming out with the chicas gives me hope that they'll repackage Sarita (and Rosita). Maybe I'll still get that Gail Kim vs Sarita match that I want... except now it'll be on a random Impact in the next few months. Brooke Hogan sucks. Fun show this week.
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