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Post by Velkontés on Nov 8, 2010 3:29:42 GMT -5
- Eric Bischoff was recently asked on his Facebook what he thought of the Nexus angle, here is his answer:
"Boring as hell."
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Post by MasterSnit on Nov 8, 2010 10:19:58 GMT -5
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Post by Naitch on Nov 8, 2010 10:57:35 GMT -5
I should tell Eric I find the 900th version of the NWO boring as hell.
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Post by Champ on Nov 8, 2010 12:48:43 GMT -5
I couldn't have responded to this thread any better than that
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Post by MasterSnit on Nov 8, 2010 18:48:45 GMT -5
Surely he realises how ridiculous a statement that is. I remember watching something a while back and it was Eric Bischoff on some TV show talking about WCW. It must have been from about 1998-99. He was saying that faction storylines ran for years and years in Japan and that is what he intended on doing with the NWO. He wasn't fucking joking, they may be called Immortal now and the company is called TNA, but a dozen years later he still hasn't came up with a new idea for a wrestling angle.
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Post by Naitch on Nov 8, 2010 19:18:09 GMT -5
Lets look at the NWO formations shall we (and Bisch is behind most of them)
1996-Pretty fresh stuff. Hogan as a heel and we had a company take over with Hall and Nash. They recruited other "WWF Castoffs". Later they took everyone and anyone not named Luger and DDP. Of course I'm not including the 200 (I'm not exaggerating, my number is probably wrong but, its just a ballpark estimate) wrestlers that WCW paid and never brought to TV (Thats shitty business management right there). Lets take a look at what some of these people did do.
Virgil-Jobbed a lot. Konnan-Shouted catchphrases and jobbed and did run ins. Buff Bagwell-Feuded with Scott Steiner and Lex Luger about who had better bodies. And broke his neck. X-Pac-Won a belt and broke his neck. Curt Hennig-Had a bunch of kick asses matches with Flair Crush-Jobbed and did run ins. Scott Steiner-Took steroids (look at him when he first joined and then around when WCW died. Its crazy.) Eric Bischoff-Talked A LOT. Big Show-Feuded with Nash and broke his neck.
Then we had the Wolfpac. They had shitty music and for some reason Sting joined them. That made no sense.
Then WCW brought us the Latin World Order. And it was dumb.
Then NWO 2000. Jeff Jarrett, The Harris Bros and some other guys. At this point everyone gave up on it.
The One Warrior Nation. OWN is NWO backwards ya know! Led to horrific matches between Warrior and Hogan.
WWF's NWO. They were at least smart enough to pull the plug fast on this. At least had fun segments with Austin and Lesnar and Goldust.
In TNA we had some Russo rip offs before the Immortals. We had the Kings of Wrestling (Jarrett, Nash and I want to say Hall) and we had the Main Even Mafia. Wrestling companies need to give the Stable Trying Kill the company storyline a break. Even ROH had two of these storylines. The Prophecy vs ROH and CZW vs ROH. Those two were fun but still, my point stands.
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Post by Velkontés on Nov 9, 2010 1:41:08 GMT -5
That pic of McMahon throwing Bischoff in the dumpster needs to be posted more often. Bisch must finds the Nexus story boring because [/i] [7] there haven't been a million stupid plot twists [8] it has built up anticipation and forwarded the story over time, rather than blow all its load all at once [9] it doesn't involve Abyss [10] people are interested in it see [9] above[/ul]
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Post by Champ on Nov 9, 2010 12:01:00 GMT -5
The Nexus storyline, IMO is the most interesting thing that's happened in the last decade. After the Invasion, which was interesting since WCW was now an actual part of WWF, nothing really interesting ever happened. Bischoff always slams any idea he didn't come up with. That's why it was brilliant when Vince booked him like an ass in 2005
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Post by Naitch on Nov 9, 2010 15:58:07 GMT -5
Bischoff didn't come up with a lot back then either. NWO vs WCW and really that was about it until Russo got there and destroyed the whole fucking thing.
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Post by MasterSnit on Nov 9, 2010 16:27:53 GMT -5
It's pretty funny when you think about WCW. It's as if Bischoff and the guys were actually trying to destroy it but just couldn't get the job done, so in steps Russo to set off the Warrior Nukes from within.
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Post by Naitch on Nov 9, 2010 16:41:47 GMT -5
Russo is a great example of anyone can book a company. I think we could all get our friends that don't even watch wrestling to book a company and it would mirror WCW during the Russo days. I don't know how much Nitro anyone watched but it was insane how you could figure out details of the next show by watching WWF.
Example: At some PPV WWF had an ambulance match. The next night Nitro had a ambulance match. At WWF's next PPV they had a ladder match. The night after that Nitro had a ladder match.
Russo was stealing gimmicks he made in WWF. He made Brad Armstrong Buzzkill, a ripoff of the Roadogg because they were brothers. Even if you knew those two were brothers it still looked stupid.
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Post by Velkontés on Nov 10, 2010 0:03:43 GMT -5
Bischoff always slams any idea he didn't come up with. That's why it was brilliant when Vince booked him like an ass in 2005 Oh right, I sort of remember that. I wonder if you have any PHOTOGRAPHS of that happening, just to, you know, jog my memory?
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Post by MasterSnit on Nov 11, 2010 10:44:42 GMT -5
I was a casual watcher of WCW back in the day. Never missed a WWF show but only watched bits on WCW now and again. Towards the end one of the TV channels here in the UK would air the show with Batman style "POW" and "CLOBBER" speech bubbles. I really should have watched that stuff more for the laughs.
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Post by Champ on Nov 11, 2010 12:53:40 GMT -5
during the good part of the NWO angle I watched WCW every week. But towards the end it was just such a stupid clusterfuck that it made the current TNA product look brilliant
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Post by Velkontés on Nov 11, 2010 15:22:04 GMT -5
christ, I remember the kapow speech bubbles. It was on Channel 5. Nearly ten fricking years ago. It was a recap-type show, and I'm fairly sure that they cobbled together pieces from different shows for each episode, because there was stuff going on that contradicted stuff that happened earlier.
oh wait
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