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Post by Naitch on Aug 8, 2010 1:23:21 GMT -5
Good thinking Champ. This girl is probably better off as a friend for right now. Give yourselves a little bit longer in AA and then you guys will be in what seems a normality and then its no big deal to ask her out.
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Post by Velkontés on Aug 8, 2010 8:07:23 GMT -5
Yeah, you need to be careful. She might only see you as a friend - if you think about it, she might not have any friends who have gone through what she's going through, so she might see you as someone she can talk to who can relate to it.
Obviously I know jack shit from where I'm sitting, but it's just something to bear in mind.
I thought it was a no-no to start relationships at AA meetings and the like, although I'm sure it happens all the time.
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Post by Champ on Aug 9, 2010 0:45:18 GMT -5
It's just one of those things where we talk a lot and we like talking. We spoke for 2 hours tonight. I'd love to ask her out but I just really can't right now. I can maybe ask her out for coffee next week. She said she'd be down for that. Then maybe a movie a couple weeks from now. You know, the baby steps thing. If it gets weird, I'll back off. I'm not trying to jump on her. I do like her though and starting to get that highschool crush feeling. But I'm smarter now about that type of shit.
A lot of people end up together because they relate to each other and understand each other more than anyone. There's nothing wrong with an AA relationship so much as being in a relationship with someone from your home group because one of you will most likely have to find another home group if it doesn't work out. I know I have to be careful. It just sucks that I'm starting to really like someone for the first time in a long time and knowing I really can't do anything about it. Plus I need a job to make a relationship work.
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Post by Naitch on Aug 9, 2010 0:49:18 GMT -5
You got the band thing going. Invite her to one of your shows. If you want 1 on 1 time, what I'm about to tell you is the gospel. Take her bowling. That shit works way better then a dinner and a movie.
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Post by MasterSnit on Aug 9, 2010 16:31:24 GMT -5
Aye. It was just funny you mentioned Baked Alaska, because I did indeed try it. My favourites are Caramel Chew-Chew, Phish Food and Pralines & Cream. You know you're in trouble when your favourite flavour of ice cream is three flavours of ice cream. I have to say, I'm not a huge fan of the Caramel Chew-Chew flavour. It seems to be a lot of people's favourite. I really like mint ice cream. That doesn't sound too different from my own situation. I'm of similar size and was was around that weight before losing it. In my own case I actually started gaining it quite quickly if I remember correctly. I seemed to just pile on over 2 stone over a 3 - 4 month period and hardly even noticed it. If something happens, awesome. If not, what can you do? That's good if you have found someone cool. I tend to agree with Naitch and V though, take it easy and don't let it distract you from the real reason you are going to the meetings. All this talk of AA and getting fat is making me think of Fight Club. ![](http://c.complex.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/btfight.jpg) pregnant dog Tits Bob in particular.
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Post by Velkontés on Aug 9, 2010 22:47:50 GMT -5
I think these places discourage starting new relationships in recovery because it's best to focus on your own problems, and generally get your own shit together before taking on any more emotional load.
Also, people are being open about some really personal shit at AA meetings. So making the moves on someone there could be a vulnerable postion to put someone in, and might be taken the wrong way. And I mean that in a general sense, I'm obviously not casting aspersions on your particular case.
Again, I'm not sitting here telling you to do or not do anything, just that you need to be a bit more careful than if it was a chick you met at a bar a bank.
Well I did say favourites, not favourite. Honestly though, that was like the first time I'd had ice-cream in years. I just noticed it on offer and suddenly felt like some.
I only really noticed the difference in the last few weeks or so. When I initially lost the weight a few years back, I got much narrower at the hips and around the waist. I don't think I've gained much there, my trousers still fit (perhaps I've had to loosen my belt one notch), so I guess the extra weight is mostly on my belly. Which obviously is a bit bigger than it was earlier in the year
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Post by MasterSnit on Aug 10, 2010 16:55:55 GMT -5
I caught the end of a tv show last night about that gardener guy Monty Don tracing his family history. His great-grandfather was a businessman from here in Dundee. So you see him wandering about and he stopped outside one of the Greggs bakeries where I would come out armed to the teeth with doughnuts. Suddenly I felt a pinch for a nice doughnut or three and couldn't care less about his family tree.
When the World Cup was on I relaxed my eating habits a bit and would eat whatever when sitting down to watch a game. Subsequently I put on a bit weight but I find I can always get it off easily enough, even without much exercise as long as I make a sustained effort at eating properly. A plan is always really helpful. Even if it is for a week or two I always find I do better if I know what it is I am doing instead of just taking things one day at a time without any ultimate goal. Whether the goal is at the end of a week or a month it does help to have one.
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Post by Champ on Aug 10, 2010 23:06:16 GMT -5
Cheaper too!
My health is #1. That's not going to change. That's why I'm not giving a shit about it like I would have back in the day. I'm aware now that nothing in life is good if you're not at peace with yourself.
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Post by Velkontés on Aug 15, 2010 6:24:24 GMT -5
Halfway through the month and I've dropped 3-4 pounds. Been jogging a bunch of times and only been heckled once. Pretty pleased with my effort so far.
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Post by Champ on Aug 15, 2010 15:40:12 GMT -5
I keep bouncing back and forth. I have a good week and then I do nothing for a week. My head is so off right now. I just can't stay focused with anything lately
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Post by Velkontés on Sept 19, 2010 3:42:47 GMT -5
7 weeks later, and V has lost 19lbs (I now weigh 14st dead on). I've just gotten to the point where I can jog 2.5 miles at 10mins/mile without stopping and without my shins turning to jelly.
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Post by Champ on Sept 20, 2010 12:45:20 GMT -5
you're doing better than me. I'm the worst I've been in years. Even though I started working out more, I've just been eating whatever the hell I want. It's become a compulsion since I have no other vices right now
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Post by Velkontés on Sept 21, 2010 6:28:19 GMT -5
I went up to 3½ miles this morning (I've switched to morning shifts recently, so I'm jogging at 6 in the morning like a nutcase) and managed to run it in one go in 36 minutes. Which is probably hilariously slow for some of you, but is like the best exercise I've done in ten years. Gotta say thanks for the tips in the thread, they do seem to be working. I was sceptical about the smaller portions throughout the day thing, but after a couple of weeks I got used to it and found myself being much less hungry through the day, and thus eating a lot less overall as a result. It's been an interesting experiment. you're doing better than me. I'm the worst I've been in years. Even though I started working out more, I've just been eating whatever the hell I want. It's become a compulsion since I have no other vices right now Dude, don't worry too much about it right now. Quitting all that other stuff you're doing is putting enough stress on your body as it is. You can't do everything at once.
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Post by MasterSnit on Sept 21, 2010 16:53:43 GMT -5
Good going, V. I've tried the early morning jogging a few times but never stick to it. It is probably best to eat even a little bit before doing the exercise instead of running on an empty stomach. Even if you chomp down half a banana before going out it is probably for the best. Personally, if I exert myself on an empty stomach my body feels as though it gets hollow before my legs and arms threaten to give out. I usually always eat a banana before exercising and it seems to do the trick. Remember the green tea (I'm drinking some now). ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png) I've been doing a bit more myself recently. I'm going to try and put in a sustained effort to improve my fitness over the next three months or so before the inevitable weight-gain over the Christmas holidays. Champ, like V said, don't bother yourself about putting on a few pounds. Once you're ready, you'll be able to take them off again. By the sounds of it, it seems we've all had periods where we've been packing on the pounds but have managed to get ourselves right when the time was right.
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Post by Champ on Sept 21, 2010 22:56:35 GMT -5
Yeah I know. Everyone in AA and my morning program tells me I'm beating the shit out of myself for no reason. I just really miss how into it I was. It was to the point where I didn't know how to eat bad anymore and I HAD to do at least 3 miles when I ran. I just felt so conditioned and I could walk anywhere and deal with any hills or stairs.
I remember 5 years ago I helped my friend move into a new apartment during a 100 degree day in August and I was running up and down stairs with boxes like I was in a marathon. Then last month, I helped my sponsor move and if 3 of us didn't get it done in an hour, I would have been done. We had a nice day too.
I remember even when I was doing the 500 hindu squats without stopping. I actually got that from Joe Benoit believe it or not. I figured if I can do that, I couldn't be stopped. I even made it to 1000 one day
I'm at exactly 15st right now(210lbs). It's the highest I've ever been. I've been working out on and off the past two months. I'll go 4 days a week for two weeks and then go a week without it. I'm still pretty strong considering and my cardio isn't BAD. It's just that I have to stop after like a mile and a half straight because I'm lugging so much damn weight around now. The worst two things about it is how I totally lost my physique and how sluggish I feel. The muscle is still underneath the layer of fat I put on. I guess if I gave it a solid 3 months I'd make a great transformation. Thank god for muscle and exercise memory. I just feel like a fat bastard. I don't even care as much about my appearance to people anymore as it just bothers me myself and how tired I feel. The vanity part of it, I actually just started getting past very recently. I just want to do it it for me
That's really not bad. I was averaging out 28 - 30 min when I was doing 3 miles. I had a lot of hills in my run though. I don't know if you're doing neighborhood running or using a track. The best I ever did 3 miles around the neighborhood with the hills was 24 - 25 min. I was just on that day. But it sounds like you're doing everything right. Keep it up! I want to do what you're doing now. I don't want to do bodybuilding anymore. I just want to get lean
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