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Post by Naitch on May 1, 2009 13:01:15 GMT -5
Dude, as you know I'm majoring in Business Marketing, I'm still an amateur but I want to give helpful hints to help your band. Since your band is your business. All of these are related to your Myspace page. I got a day off with not a whole to do today besides stay awake so it seems like a great use of my time. Some of these might sound mean but I'm saying everything here as your friend.
1a. Your blogs. I know your obviously not in charge of those but you need to find a way to move those to the top of the page. Very easy to overlook right now. Thats bad because there is useful band info in those.
1b. Tell whoever is writing those to start using the shift key. They look like shit without capital letters and thats a turn off. Just remember you don't know whos looking at that site and that might be the difference between an A&R guy contacting you or ignoring you.
2a. I know the masters aren't ready but soon as they are put those up. The rough tracks however sound awesome as is.
2b. More tracks to listen to will ultimately mean a wider variety of tracks being bought. People love they're Ipods.
2c. Speaking of buying stuff, get some cool shirts and hats. Sell them just at your shows if you want.
2d. You guys sound tight in those tracks. The guitar and bass work is phenomenal. Your vocalist is great too. I'm stupid when it comes to drums but it doesn't sound like a retard banging on pots and pans.
3a. Change the layout of your page. I don't know whats design you have but it doesn't have some sort of band logo there. The mail us thing has pictures of different people on it. Have a band picture there.
3b. Get rid of the celebs on the friends part and the hot girls and put your fans there. They love to see themselves in things like that. See a dude at a show that wants to be your friend, have him replace Kat Von D or Sexy Latina. Unless they are actually paying admission to your shows.
3C. The write up of the albums is a little confusing to read. Those could use a revamping.
4. The pictures of the band are great. A little silly but thats a good thing. The KISS thing seems to be on the outs and people want to be able to relate to they're bands.
Phew, thats all I got hombre. Free advice!
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Post by Champ on May 1, 2009 17:45:32 GMT -5
You're right but at the same time you should have the songs at the VERY top of the page, so people can hit it instantly. Then have the blog RIGHT underneath it so people can read about us while listening to the music. But I DO agree that the blogs should be very visible and up front. Like I said, have like 3 songs at the very top and the blog right underneath it because that way the Blog is still at the top but they'll hit on the music right away. My site I believe my blog is right on top. I'm not sure. My site and the band site needs a lot of work. My singer likes to believe he's a web building genius lol. But he's always got too big of resolutions and shit all over the place. He's good at designing it but he needs a professional to work with him. Hey I couldn't do any better! Once again, that's my singer. He's a smart guy and understands grammar but for some reason he's very lazy with capitalizing and using punctuations where they belong. It doesn't come off professional. I actuall have been trying to get them to give me the password to the site so I can start rearranging shit around and fixing some of the grammar. My singer and guitarist have the password. I used to but since my singer changed it he and my guitarist keep forgetting to send it to me so I'm useless on that site right now The reason those songs are up is because they were the best non mastered and non mixed tracks we had. We needed to put something up ASAP with the promotion we're going to start receiving. Those songs are more like a demo taste so people know what we're about. We start mixing and mastering this week. Once they're done, we can instantly put all 12 up fully finished(say about 2 - 3 weeks). During that time we'll send the disc out to get the actual CDs printed out, jewel case, booklet with lyrics, the whole 9 yards. But yes, once again I agree those need to be up ASAP but we needed to put those 3 up just so people know what we're about NOW and not through the poorly produced shit we had up there earlier. As I mentioned on the other thread, we can't invest in that until people know us or it's a useless waste of money. But once we get enough hits and people start booking us more and our cd starts selling, that's when we can finally tell the manager, ok dude get your street team together and start designing shit. It's kind of like, you could never sell a John Cena shirt after his first match with Kurt Angle in 2002 but after 2 years people knew him well enough to buy it Thanks dude. I did all the color rhythm guitar work and the bass. As for my drummer, he is awesome. He's right there with me. He really understands what he's doing and I play better because of him so in answer to your question about drummers, he's definitely the bomb for this band and did awesome work on this album That I agree with you. Like I said, my singer tries to get a little too creative and I think he needs a real web designer with years of experience to at least sit on the phone with him and tell him how to lay everything out. My singer also changes his mind A LOT! He'll look at the page one day and think, this is awesome and that very night, he'll say, what the hell was I thinking? He's even done that with some of the songs and we almost got in arguments about leaving things alone that were already good before we go backwards with it. Same with the layout, the layout was better at one point but by trying to make it better, he complicated it. His mind has too many ideas and they fight with eachother. I guess that's why he's calling the album Equal Lithium. Our song Equal Lithium is about a guy arguing with another guy, but it's himself and the two personalites learn to work together by giving eachother ideas. That's him in a nutshell lol I think we should have a few hot chicks up there because they draw the type of fans that would like our music but once again, I agree the rest of it should consist of mainly OUR friends and OUR fans. Absolutely. Too many hot chicks up there. We only need like 3. You're right See 1A, 1B, and 3A lol We have Kiss type pics up there? lol I didn't even know. We're actually doing a real photo shoot this summer but we even want some of the pro pics to be a little silly because it shows a fun side But thanks a lot for the advice dude. For the most part I'm in agreement. Slowly but surely you should see these things taken care of
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Post by Naitch on May 2, 2009 7:07:26 GMT -5
To clarify on the pics you do not have KISS like pics. You have normal pics. The larger then life rock star shit that KISS started works mostly for people now in they're 40s (not your target demographic obviously). I know you want to think your target demographic is everybody but it should really be ages 15-34. After 34 is when people get stuck thinking whatever they have already bought is the best music ever.
Thanks for being so cool on letting me rip apart the myspace page. It was an exercise for me as well to see how well I can right criticism and not come off as a dick.
On a personal note I loved the top and bottom track you have out. The middle one I liked the middle but thats all just personal taste.
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Post by Champ on May 3, 2009 3:27:10 GMT -5
It's funny you say that because the middle track was the one you liked the middle(track 2, Guide You, right?) is one of the ones I'm happiest with so far and some people love that song. But that's what I love! Everyone likes different songs that I'm talking to about it. That's exactly what I want to hear. That goes to show you the power of an opinion. It's what makes your music pro. But the bottom line is, no matter WHO'S opinion it is, if we want to make it big, we have to accept EVERYONE'S opinion whether we agree with it or not.
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Post by Naitch on May 5, 2009 20:55:10 GMT -5
I don't think its a bad song by any means. I just thought out of those three it was the weakest. The other two I found a little edgier. I wouldn't say that song would be filler on your album, just maybe a track I won't listen to as much as others. But hell everyone else might love it.
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Post by Champ on May 5, 2009 23:29:31 GMT -5
We finished our real first mix tonight and it sounds SICK! I can't even believe it's us. I wish I knew how to post it. Regardless, you guys will hear it sooner or later
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