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Post by Champ on Nov 29, 2008 23:13:41 GMT -5
I heard one of the songs on the radio. I don't know which one. I honestly didn't care for it. The song was good but Axl did nothing exciting with his vocals. He just stayed down low with a lot of effects. It wasn't the raw GnR I was looking for. I need to hear more songs
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Post by MasterSnit on Dec 3, 2008 15:28:51 GMT -5
I listened to the album last night. I quite enjoyed it but it definitely wasn't as RAW as AFD. I'll listen to it again, it seems as though it's one of those albums that will grow on you.
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Post by Champ on Dec 3, 2008 18:00:36 GMT -5
2 of my friends told me last night that the album is great. I definitely have to hear it. One of them is burning it for me this week
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Post by MasterSnit on Dec 3, 2008 18:24:12 GMT -5
You cheap bastard!
I "borrowed" it from the internet in a "borrow now, pay... umm, later" deal.
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Post by Champ on Dec 4, 2008 5:57:32 GMT -5
That's right I'm a cheap fuck. I'm like a Jew. The truth is I could care less about owning an album cover and a real jewel case. Just give me the songs burned on a CD-R and I'll be just fine with that. I actually got metallica's new album bootlegged for 5 bucks. It's just a thin crappy jewel case with a slip that has the Album title and the song names written on it. That's all I need and I'm happy
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Post by GLF on Dec 4, 2008 16:28:51 GMT -5
I "borrowed" it from the internet in a "borrow now, pay... umm, later" deal. Pretty much how I deal with music and films these days haha. |
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Post by Naitch on Dec 5, 2008 9:17:12 GMT -5
Do you guys still support some bands? Like I have a certain amount of bands that I just flat out buy the album from before it hits my computer. Queens of the Stone Age and the such always get a little bit of money from me.
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Post by Champ on Dec 6, 2008 5:39:58 GMT -5
I honestly don't really support anybody. It's not because I don't like any bands. I'm just more into the creative side of it right now. I haven't been to a concert in years
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Post by Velkontés on Dec 6, 2008 6:58:32 GMT -5
Do you guys still support some bands? Like I have a certain amount of bands that I just flat out buy the album from before it hits my computer. Queens of the Stone Age and the such always get a little bit of money from me. A lot of bands I like are obscure, so I buy their albums. Just on the basis that they probably need the cash to continue going and make more music I like. I might dl the odd track (usually off youtube) if I only like that one particular song. If I dl two or three tracks from the same album, from an artist I wouldn't usually like, I might end up buying the album anyway = money that artist would never have had from me. Some albums are so obscure I can't find them in the shops, if I find them online I'll dl those. Seriously, I live in the middle of a city, it has however many record stores, I do try to find them first. Bands with a gazillion dollars in the bank? Fuck them. I'm poor. I'm not making a moral point, I know it's still stealing. If I was better off I would pay them. This doesn't happen very much, though. I guess I don't really have a hard-and-fast rule on these things. |
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Post by Champ on Dec 6, 2008 23:24:54 GMT -5
When I was a little younger I was more anti-radio so if there was anything I was looking for it usually had to be on CD. Now I could care less. If the radio puts out a song and it doesn't hit my ears the wrong way I give it a chance now. I used to be a real music snob. I'm trying to be more understanding of what people are doing as opposed to just shooting it down. Don't get me wrong, when you start playing and recording on the pro level, you start setting the bar high for everything, your music and other people's music. It comes off as me being arrogant and I totally see why but the truth is it's more of a confidence thing. I feel great about what my band and I are doing and if I hear signed bands that I believe don't sound as good as my band, it pisses me off and pushes me to say they suck because I feel like they didn't attempt to set a bar and kind of got lucky. So I get pissed off because I want to hear people doing what we're doing, attempting to be the best in the world as opposed to just falling ass backwards into fame and money. Produce something you'll be proud of. Fuckin music is so damn lazy these days. That's why I keep going back to Metallica and Guns N Roses. I WANT to move on, but no bands except Killswitch and Foo Fighters have impressed me lately
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Post by MasterSnit on Dec 7, 2008 13:55:12 GMT -5
I don't care whether I'm supporting a band or not. If I like them that much to go and see them then I'll hand over the cash for my ticket, no problem. However, if I just want to listen to their songs for free, I will without bothering about the positive or negative affects it will have on a band.
In this day and age where most media is readily available for free, I don't think it's a very fair for bands and artists to pregnant dog about people stealing their music. It should be art for art's sake and if it's good enough people will pay to listen to it live.
And if it sucks (which, from what I can tell from the very little current music I hear, is often) then fuck them.
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Post by Champ on Dec 7, 2008 15:52:37 GMT -5
See the way I think, I don't expect anybody to support my band because I feel like I'm not supportive enough of other bands to have the right to expect people to support me, not because I don't deserve it but because I understand what it's like not to give a shit about other bands. I'm just being honest. I see it the way MS said it. If people like what they hear and they want to give stores money to support us for having our music in their lives, then that's awesome. I'd really appreciate that because that's a generous thing to do. But if they want to steal our shit off of Limewire, by all means I won't even give a shit. If I made my living as a pro musician I could care less if people were stealing my music, just as long as I'm getting by very comfortably. People like Lars Ulrich need to shut the fuck up with his napster battle. The years everyone of their fuckin albums came out Metallica made more money than most of us will ever see in a lifetime. If I was in a band that made the money Metallica made, I'd be telling my fans to go to Limewire if they can't afford to buy it or don't want to. That would be my way of giving back
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Post by Naitch on Dec 7, 2008 22:14:43 GMT -5
I don't buy many new albums but I feel the need to throw down some cash for Killswitch Engage and a handful of bands that I know that will go out of they're way to entertain me.
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Post by Velkontés on Dec 8, 2008 1:33:32 GMT -5
It should be art for art's sake and if it's good enough people will pay to listen to it live. I disagree with that art for art's sake argument. It's bullshit. You don't tell a baker it's bread for bread's sake. Releasing an album takes a lot of time and labour, just because it isn't working down t' pits doesn't make it less valid. I don't see many live bands any more. In fact I've never been a massive gig-goer, but I do find listening to music to be one of the few simple pleasures in life that I can rely on in good times and bad. It can put me in a good mood, it can get me going, it can put a smile on my face etc etc etc. So while I don't have any problems downloading some stuff I'm also happy to pay a tenner for a new album by a group I like, rather than hope some other assholes will give them enough money to get by. But also for the pleasure, you know? Trent Reznor and Radiohead released albums earlier in the year, where you download it for whatever price you see fit, or for free. That would be the ideal model for someone like me, because I don't give a shit about record stores. |
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Post by MasterSnit on Dec 8, 2008 7:18:26 GMT -5
I don't have any problem with people making money from their work, but I feel the reasons for making music by many musicians, and want-to-be musicians these days aren't very admirable. Let's take whatever pop girl is popular right now (I don't know who, maybe that girl that kissed a girl and liked it?). Does she make music because of the pleasure of creating and performing, or does she perhaps like the multi-million dollars, the ego-stroking appearances on any and every chat show, and other such stuff. I feel that at a base level, there should be some sort of personal desire to create because of the personal pleasure it gives, not because it may enable you make mega-bucks and to get your face plastered all over the place. I feel this probably does apply to many artists and bands today, and likely in the past, too. What I'm basically saying is that I appreciate a bit of honesty and real effort in people's art, not self-indulgence and half-hearted endeavors.
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