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Jul 4, 2009 20:23:35 GMT -5
Post by Champ on Jul 4, 2009 20:23:35 GMT -5
Regardless, there's definitely going to be some sort of loophole interaction since Jacob officially died right around the same time Juliet set the bomb off. It really comes down to how they're going to explain what those 2 things happening at once resulted in. Either the bomb happened already and Jacob's death did not. Or vice versa. OR maybe both never happened and that was the present for each. The fact that those 2 things happened at once is what's making it so intriguing to find out what's going to happen next. If just the hatch blew up(without Jacob dying), either they'd all be dead or they'd be in LA. So it's really about Jacob now
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Jul 5, 2009 17:49:38 GMT -5
Post by MasterSnit on Jul 5, 2009 17:49:38 GMT -5
I think the last episode was structured to lead the viewer to believe it was significant that the things happening in the two time frames were relevant to each other. However, I'm not buying that at all. The two timelines cannot run parallel to one another and affect each other. Whatever happened 30 years previous with the bomb going off had already happened by the time Ben and Moses were whacking Jacob. When, what's his name, the sex-pest who speaks with a whisper, said that the variables can affect the past, then fair enough. But I still feel that whatever happened 30 years previous had already happened by the time the plane crashed on the island. Maybe my understanding of time travel isn't up to scratch.
I do get the feeling that the story has become so complex, that even when all the answers are revealed next season, there will still be parts that might not make sense and make us go, "Hey... wait a second...".
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Jul 5, 2009 22:09:32 GMT -5
Post by Champ on Jul 5, 2009 22:09:32 GMT -5
In the end I'll be honest, I think none of us are right! But I have a good new theory! In 1977, Sawyer revealed to Jack that his parents already died a year ago. So no matter what, what's done is done, as Sawyer put it. Since they're making it so obvious that all these things happened already and there's no way to change it, even in 1977, I'm starting to think that possibly, 2007 happened already. For example, maybe Moses and Jacob had the talk about "loopholes" in the beginning of the show in the year 2012. They never told us what year it was. Now that his Moses friend found the loophole, he killed Jacob in 2007 possibly because he ended up in that year after the season 5 flashes.
The explanation that Jacob said, "you found your loophole" doesn't necessarily pertain to the conversation they had in the beginning either. They may have been looking for loopholes for 50 years.
I know what I just said is a little tricky so in a nutshell, I'm almost thinking now that when everyone crashed on the island in 2004, that was actually Jacobs past even though the crash was the Oceanic's present. I feel like there has to be later years involved now then 2007 to legitimately explain the interactions
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Jul 7, 2009 17:26:33 GMT -5
Post by MasterSnit on Jul 7, 2009 17:26:33 GMT -5
We probably will all be wrong.
And it's a good point about the conversation with Moses and Jacob being in the future. The rags for clothes, old nets and wooden ship with sails would suggest it was in the past, but with Lost you never know.
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Jul 10, 2009 2:01:20 GMT -5
Post by Champ on Jul 10, 2009 2:01:20 GMT -5
Exactly! They do shit like that! It looked like that conversation was from 700BC. Meanwhile, it could have been the year 5743 for all we know
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Jul 14, 2009 15:51:23 GMT -5
Post by MasterSnit on Jul 14, 2009 15:51:23 GMT -5
I think I may have mentioned this before. There was an episode of Lost on TV the other day, just from earlier this past season, and it looked old already. I've thought this for a while, but once I have seen a new episode of Lost, even if I go back and watch a bit of it a day or two later, it already looks very dated. I think it is the way it is shot. There are lots of the same colours present all the time with them being on the island, the movement seems slower and more deliberate, and there are constant close ups on the characters' faces, which probably makes it easier to notice them age. It's maybe just me, but I feel that if we were to go through and watch Lost in ten years it wouldn't have aged well at all.
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