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Post by Velkontés on Aug 19, 2012 14:17:25 GMT -5
WHY did they make AJ the GM? Why? "I like AJ a lot, therefore it must follow that I would like a lot of AJ" They need to back down a little on Dan as well, before they AlbertoDelRio him too. |
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Post by MasterSnit on Aug 19, 2012 16:29:21 GMT -5
I think it's officially time to take Piper out behind the barn Yeah, that was terrible. Jericho should have told Rodney the Piper to shut the hell up. They need to back down a little on Dan as well, before they AlbertoDelRio him too. Yes. |
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Post by Velkontés on Aug 21, 2012 12:14:26 GMT -5
"You've been the WWE Champion 274 days and all anyone remembers about you is the night you blew a kiss to Vince McMahon and left town." Man, Cena can really deliver a killer promo some times. That felt like another dress rehearsal for the Cena Heel Turn (ETA: 2025), in the sense that in a different context that would have been a dynamite heel promo. Obviously in this context he was putting a jerk in his place (while subtly goading him into giving him the title shot).
Also, Heyman was great. That was kind of amazing how they far they shat on Triple H. To the point where you'd half expect him to demand a rematch. If it was six years ago.
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Post by Naitch on Aug 24, 2012 16:53:37 GMT -5
Raw 8/20 thoughts
-Paul Heyman is a damn promo genius.
-The six man tag was good. I enjoyed the stuff with Cody and Sin Cara.
-It's somewhere around here, I think, I decided Jerry Lawler has become to much of a homer for the faces and should be strangled.
-I HATE RYBACK.
-Alberto vs Orton as cool, I guess. I don't really remember it.
-Damien Sandow, what a fella.
-HBK had a pretty damn good promo.
-Kane/Zack vs Miz/Bryan was a thing of beauty.
-I don't work for WWE, I don't even watch the PPVs, but I would have been pissed if I did and I paid for Jericho vs Ziggs and the next night I got the better overall result for free.
-I was with Cena all the way until the end of his promo. I don't know why he sunk that thing at the end but he did. That's what being a hypocrite will do.
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Post by Champ on Aug 25, 2012 15:34:56 GMT -5
As much as people want Cena to die, when it comes to crunch time, he buries everyone in the company on the mic, including the Rock, who's the "best promo guy ever". It goes to show just why being able to talk is so important
Heyman is so good for one simple reason. I fucking hate his guts. The reason I feel that way is because he's just so goddamn convincing as a parasitic scumbag. They need to keep Heyman around to work with guys who need work in that area.
I'm totally with you on that one. He's the new Goldberg in the same way Made in the USA Lex Luger was the new Hulk Hogan. For me, it's just an epic fail
When I see promos like that from a lousy titantron coming off as good as it did, it really makes me wonder why they can't find talent like HBK these days. You know, the kind of guy that can wrestle a broom or just talk to a crowd about anything and always make it mean something. It's kind of a shame.
I love matches that deliver a story. That was one of those matches where it wasn't all about the "wrestling moves" but just the way it was performed and delivered. I prefer HBK/Taker at mania over Steamboat/Savage at mania any given day, or Triple H/Taker II/III over Bret Hart vs. HBK Iron man match. What I mean by that is, guys can have insane tests of endurances or hit spots all day long and I'll get bored. But if they work the crowd and make them feel involved, it makes it that much more special.
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Post by Velkontés on Sept 4, 2012 12:23:37 GMT -5
I know they were in Chicago last night, and had a hot, smartass-y crowd, but still: a few more segments like THE HUG over the next year is going to rocket Daniel Bryan into the Cenasphere.
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Post by Champ on Sept 4, 2012 20:44:43 GMT -5
- That whole Raw was great. I was actually entertained the entire 3 hours except with Randy vs. Zigs for the (1000 and) 2nd time and Cena vs. Del Rio.
- I'm actually starting to hate Del Rio. I notice lately every time I hear his music I get irritated because I know I'm going to be bored for 10 minutes. He's just so not doing it for me right now. I feel like he's so damn 1 dimensional like, if you saw Del Rio last week, you saw him for the last 2 years. In other words, you really didn't miss anything. Maybe it's a bit harsh. But I'm really just bored to shitfuck with him right now.
- Instead of Miz coming out and Cole sucking his dick and Miz breaking Cole's balls, Cole was fucking with the Miz. That was so out of the blue and it was fucking outstanding.
Miz: when facing the big guys you have to you psychology
Cole: so you're saying You run! You hightail to the back!
Miz: Who are you Cole?!?!
LOL
- Dan and Kane hug segment was better than every Randy, Del Rio, and Ziggler segment combined over the last month
- Kaitlyn's getting fat! WTF happened? I mean I'd still bang the living shit out of her but she was fucking ridiculous looking on NXT
- The two Sheamus and Punk segments were booked as close to perfect as you can get with a heel and face segment. Sheamus was 100% right about Punk and his hypocrisies. Then Punk believing he was fully deserving of taking a "personal day" in his hometown on Labor day and manipulating everyone to respect his decision was fucking fantastic! You don't really get much better at booking someone to be a selfish dickhead than that. Oh and to top it off, he mentioned that Sheamus has the second best title in the WWE, which isn't fully false, but is still a SUPER dickhead thing to say if you respect your company. BRILLIANT writing!!
Punk is obviously going to be a full blown heel now, especially after seeing him leave with Heyman, which is an interesting twist in itself. After everything that happened with Punk on Raw, if he doesn't get nuclear heat in the near future, I really don't know what will work for a heel turn with him
- I hope AJ flipping out gets her fired as GM. I want to see her back in the circle of talent.
- Poor gay Swagger
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Post by Velkontés on Sept 7, 2012 15:06:28 GMT -5
- Dan and Kane hug segment was better than every Randy, Del Rio, and Ziggler segment combined over the last month That single segment was more memorable than anything those three have done in years. Miz making up the rules on commentary was pretty funny too. |
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Post by Champ on Sept 7, 2012 20:33:49 GMT -5
Yeah! lol
Then Cole going, how do you know the rules?!?! There are actual rules?!
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Post by Champ on Sept 11, 2012 12:38:38 GMT -5
I wonder if there's a pattern to something fucked up always happening in Montreal when Bret Hart is there. Lawler was clinically dead for 20 minutes til they brought him back. They say he may never be the same now because of the brain damage. Hope he's ok. That sucks
anyway, back to the show,
Cena: the brutal truth is, you've been WWE champion for 300 days and watch main event after main event pass you by. Then you blame it on some sort of conspiracy agaist you, when the fact is, there is no "you".
Cena is a promo bastard now. Every time there's a segment where "that guy you can't fuck with on the mic" gets in the ring with Cena, Cena just fucking knocks it out of the park so naturally as if he's saying, nice try asshole. I would go as far as to say Cena is officially the best guy on the mic now.
However, Punk is already better again as a heel.
Randy Orton sucks
Dolph Ziggler sucks
Rey Mysterio sucks
Alberto Del Rio sucks
Ryback REALLY sucks
Kane and Daniel Bryan have that IT chemistry that you can't really explain how. They're just golden together
Sheamus is doing awesome. I know most people are sick of him but he's clearly not just sitting on idol as champ. He's improving his game every way possible and becoming more fun to watch again. Definitely big props to him. I thoroughly enjoy him at the headquarters. "If your lipshits, then what does your arse do?" LOL
Maybe we'll see Cody Rhodes vs. Miz on Sunday. That would be a little different and interesting
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Post by Velkontés on Sept 11, 2012 13:44:31 GMT -5
Cena is a promo bastard now. Every time there's a segment where "that guy you can't fuck with on the mic" gets in the ring with Cena, Cena just fucking knocks it out of the park so naturally as if he's saying, nice try asshole. I would go as far as to say Cena is officially the best guy on the mic now. Yeah, that was a phenomenal promo by Cena. Don't fuck with the master, Phil. I'll try to explain how: Daniel Bryan is the best in the world at what he does. And Kane is probably the most under-rated in the world at what he does. They're actually similar if you think about it: they've both been given ridiculous stories and angles throughout their careers and made solid gold out of them. That Wrestlemania match was such a buzzkill, but now it's ancient history. And yeah, you could make a case that Sheamus is consistently delivering more quality matches than anyone else. And I'm including that other promotion when I say that. Just think how silly (as in, silly good) an Austin Aries vs Sheamus match would be. I just think they need to find a more natural character for him to play, and stop trying to force him into a certain kind of face character. |
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Post by Naitch on Sept 13, 2012 22:27:19 GMT -5
-The opener with Bret and Punk was solid, Punk did a great job as a heel here.
-R-Truth and Kofi vs Miz and Ceasero was good. All four put on a fun fast paced match.
-Shemus had me in stitches during his deposition, not taking it seriously at all.
-I love that anger management counselor. He is so fucking funny. Team Friendship lol.
-During his two matches with Randy, Punk was on heel fire. When Heyman came out, I laughed when they blew off Vickie and then started talking about restaurants and travel schedules.
-Hard to believe but that tag was Jerry's last match ever. It's sad because he always had solid matches.
-I knew Jerry was going to have a heart attack during the Team Friendship vs PTP match because I taped it. Cole did a great job trying to cover up that there was a medical emergency about two feet from him.
-Anyone who tries to say that Lawler was faking his heart attack, not named Tony Clifton of course, obviously didn't see Cole try to explain what happened, are idiot and should immediately have there stupid jaws broken.
-So Cody vs Rey happens with no commentary and I realized something, the only person no commentary is better then is Mike Tenay.
-Even while looking obviously distracted, Cena put the promo machine on full tilt. Like Champ said, he's a got dang promo machine, up there with the likes of Austin and Rock.
-Because Cena is a such a promo machine, Montreal had no idea if they should boo or cheer him, and that makes me smile.
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Post by Champ on Sept 18, 2012 13:54:00 GMT -5
That was a weird ending to Raw last night and I don't ever recall seeing that ref either. My guess is there's something more to it. It just ended very anticlimactic.
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Post by Naitch on Sept 21, 2012 16:15:03 GMT -5
I think next weeks raw is going to start off with Paul Heyman calling out the ref and CM Punk putting him to sleep.
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Post by Velkontés on Sept 22, 2012 7:36:02 GMT -5
I think next weeks raw is going to start off with Paul Heyman calling out the ref and CM Punk putting him to sleep. What, is Punk going to cut a promo on ice cream bars to him? |
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