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Post by Champ on Jun 15, 2011 16:13:31 GMT -5
Are you serious? there was nothing epic about Immortal that deserves it's on dvd, at least not until they're around another few years. From what it seems like, they're done already
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Post by MasterSnit on Jun 15, 2011 16:46:08 GMT -5
Yeah, I couldn't believe it when I saw it either. It really is ridiculous.
Disk 1 - Eric
Disk 2 - Bischoff
Extras - wrestling matches
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Post by Champ on Jun 17, 2011 20:32:32 GMT -5
Disc 3, extras of Bischoff humping a Hogan blow up doll in the middle of the ring
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Post by MasterSnit on Jun 18, 2011 16:10:25 GMT -5
I just listened to this and think it is somewhat relevant to what we are talking about here.
Basically it is Heyman laying out his plan on how he would improve TNA. I'll just say, I think I would prefer Heyman at the wheel instead of Bischoff and Hogan and whoever else is by their side.
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Post by Champ on Jun 18, 2011 22:00:19 GMT -5
I'm glad I just listened to that. It showed me that Heyman's got some mind for the business. He really thinks of the big picture.
I liked how he was saying that having a bunch of legends on the show keeps the young guys from getting noticed.
The other thing I liked is when he said, you can't get excited about a legend's future in the business. That's why you need to cut down on the legends and start showing off the younger talents growth.
It made me realized that's why R Truth is so exciting now. His progress on RAW is giving me something to look forward too and I almost don't want to miss Raw because I don't want to miss R Truth's next move.
It's the same reason guys like Austin, Rock, Shawn, Trips, Taker, Edge, Cena, Batista, Jeff Hardy, CM Punk, Del Rio, Sheamus, and Wade/Nexus, just to name a big handful, have made us not want to miss a WWE show in the last 15 years in the WWE. Whether we liked those guys are not, there was a point in time where we wanted to see what those guys were going to do next
Heyman just helped me see the bigger picture that much clearer in just 7 min
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Post by MasterSnit on Jun 19, 2011 16:31:40 GMT -5
I slightly disagree with his "only one legend" stance. Yeah, take away the majority of their air time, but maybe keep at least a few around to rotate in and out of feuds.
I think Bischoff subscribes to the theory that I've heard Kevin Nash bang on about and that is that a wrestler needs about ten years of exposure before they can become big household names. Personally I think that is absolute rubbish. Maybe back in the eighties and early nineties that held some weight because all the fans were exposed to was mostly what they saw on TV shows. However, from about the mid-nineties onwards things began to change with more magazines, tape trading and the early internet. Today, anyone can go on to the internet and be exposed to someone within minutes and then find out everything about them if they are interested. There is more than enough ways to advertise your talents and get them known and accepted quicker these days.
Heyman seems to be with the times, whereas I think Bischoff seems to be afraid to move on from things that worked before but may not necessarily work now.
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Post by Champ on Jun 19, 2011 21:55:22 GMT -5
Yeah I disagree with the ONE legend but I do agree that they need to cut back on them
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Post by Naitch on Jul 2, 2011 17:05:18 GMT -5
When does someone become a legend then? Because in a matter of years TNA could have several new legends in guys like AJ Styles, Eric Young, Mr. Anderson, etc. Do you just shit can them because you can only have so many legends or do you appreciate them for sticking with you?
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Post by MasterSnit on Jul 2, 2011 19:29:24 GMT -5
Yeah, that is a definite grey area. It could be argued that A.J. is a TNA legend, but he's also in the prime of his career. So would they get rid of him because he's considered a legend? I think his idea was to go in a similar direction the WWF did around the late nineties. WCW were buying all the old established guys and thought they were going to put WWF out of business, but instead WWF put all their energies into creating a brand new kind of wrestling show with new characters that the audiences could get their teeth into.
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Post by Champ on Jul 3, 2011 0:04:41 GMT -5
When does someone become a legend then? Because in a matter of years TNA could have several new legends in guys like AJ Styles, Eric Young, Mr. Anderson, etc. Do you just shit can them because you can only have so many legends or do you appreciate them for sticking with you? I'd say they get kind of shit canned, for NOW at least, because of the longevity and accomplishments the already old bastards have over guys like AJ in the business overall, not just in TNA. By them sticking around it almost doesn't allow guys like AJ to be a legend. It kind of sucks actually.
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