Bischoff Bischoffs rant

[Champ]

Bischoff tweeting the following in response to the “IWC smarks” who follow pro wrestling online and are outspoken about TNA’s product:

“Seems like 90% of the audience loves what the loudest 10% hates. So who really matters? The 10%er’s can’t get over the fact that they are irrelevant. Ratings don’t lie. Research doesn’t lie. IWC smarks need to get over it.”


Here are the responses,



trtx84: @ebischoff So you declare “Wrestling Matters” to attract IWCers mad at WWE, then call them irrelevant? Shoot yourself in the foot much?

littlebucko: @ebischoff Irrelevant? Uh, that’s funny coming from a guy who’s been irrelevant for over ten years. On top of that, when you WERE relevant, your success was due to Ted Turner’s checkbook. Even then, you couldn’t win.#WCW01=TNA11

ztj_wwf: @ebischoff Without the support of the IWC over the years, TNA would not have gotten to be where it is today. You should not alienate any of your fan base, especially some of the most dedicated ones. We all know TNA cannot afford to do so. And by insulting the IWC, aren’t you pretty much insulting every single follower you have here on Twitter? That’s nice!

4DFK: @ebischoff Insulting all the fans who don’t like you, dismissing them like they don’t matter. Great way to shut the haters up. Nice job. EVERY fan matters. Even the ones who don’t care to see yet another 20 minute Hogan/Bischoff love fest promo. See, when you blatantly insult the fans like that, it really makes me want to NOT watch iMPACT anymore. Exercize a little tact.

TheMacho_Moose: @ebischoff umm… The “Loudest 10%” are you kidding me? The Ratings don’t lie, you and Hulk drove over 50% of #TNA’s fans away in 2010. Now the proof is in the Ratings,that “fact doesnt lie&” :TNA’s numbers are no better than before you & @hulkhogan4real came to #TNA. So we’re supposed to take you seriously running a company when you haven’t learned from history? At least some fans stand up for what they believe in,and it obviously isnt TNA since January 2010. How much of the 10% spoke negatively about TNA before? Like 1% so you have no room to talk about Ratings dough-brain. You have no idea how to keep steady viewers. Stop focusing on the numbers and focus on the product your shitting out, because its at an all time low and those who don’t go on the internet would agree. if ur product was so great and “90%” of the fans love it, then wouldnt Ratings go up?For every set of eyes u draw to TNA,u lose a set AND THATS THE FACTS BISCH!! So stop hating on the internet fans,if you didnt want us,you wouldnt advertise #TNA on Twitter asshat.

Hanzi83: @ebischoff u make fun of the internet wrestling fans.. and i bet u they are the only reason tna is even covered.. otherwise noone cares. all u have to do is point to the last year of wcw and show how u and russo lost 65 million for the company.. u and russo keep trying to be what wwe is.. but u fail miserably and one day roh will overtake u guys. wrestling matters my ass.. and the booking is horrible.. and explain how ur lower card talent and women get paid shit.

HerrWichtig: @ebischoff If you are on the right road- why is there still a 1.1 rating like before? Isn´t the customer always right?

Mzrc10: @ebischoff LOL. Too bad the other 90% is too stupid to know what irrelevant even means. Otherwise your stat would be the other way around.

MatBurnz: Only @ebischoff would see a 1.5 rating for a segment featuring a guy who doesn’t wrestle a good time to gloat and shit on his audience.

Alexx_Raven: Every wrestling fan should be relevant. @ebischoff.

RatedMKD: OK, @ebischoff. You’re right, ratings don’t lie. They’re about the same as they were before you and Hogan joined. GTFO.

TheLou52: @ebischoff so you’re on the internet talking shit about the IWC. ironic or moronic? no wonder TNA sucks so much ass

WWFRAWISWAR: In 2006 TNA went to 2 hours debut show drew a 1.1 Rating last week TNA Drew a 1.2 Rating HUGE CHANGE RIGHT ?

MWF2001: @ebischoff w/ all due respect the 90% that enjoy won’t spend $ on PPVs or events. I work in cable the 10k PPV buys on par w/ 2005 & no stars

flitzy: @ebischoff How’s that 1.2 rating working out for you with that attitude?

Alexx_Raven: When people aren’t suing TNA, the KOs are being paid, theres more than 20 mins of wrestling and ratings are over 2.0 then @ebischoff can talk.

JordanGoins: in about 12 hours @ebischoff will claim he got hacked.

KyleMinix: If @ebischoff and TNA focused on giving us wrestling instead of covering up shady shit by employees they might get over a 1.0

FredCasden: @ebischoff Research also shows that we’ve seen all your tricks before and that they were good 15 years ago but aren’t as good now. Research shows that you’d be better off getting more shows on VH1 instead of throwing a hissy fit when us fans prove you wrong

enigma_alex: @ebischoff is an argument to be had that ratings equate to appealing to the lowest common denominator #qualityvsquantity

4wrestling81: If people don`t like Impact Wrestling just don`t watch it and stop pregnant doging @ebischoff . He knows the business more than any of you geeks!

HardcoreHoppy75: @ebischoff I would rather be in the 10% that you don’t care about then be apart of the 90% who spends all day kissing your ass

Naythan93: @ebischoff They’re just so far up other companies asses that they cant see good programming when its staring directly at them.

[Champ]

I would agree more with Bischoff's statement if it was made by Vince McMahon.

[MasterSnit]

Bischoff's defence to any criticism is "The ratings... blahspinblahspinblah... so I'm right and you're wrong".
I don't follow ratings, and correct me if I am wrong, but I believe TNA's highest ever rating may have been just before Hogan and Bischoff arrived. And since they have arrived, I haven't heard much about TNA "taking off" or even taking "the next step", the company just seems to be puttering along like a car that can run out of gas, blow it's exhaust off and come to a stop at any time.

[Champ]

They actually lost a lot of viewers and ratings went down after Hogan and Bischoff took over. I think it's climbed back up to where it was before but that's because they actually have some decent talent on their show. But, a lot of these people had a great point. Bischoff is trying to succeed the same way he failed with WCW. He just doesn't get it. He really believes that 20 minute promos from him or being in every backstage segment is going to improve the company? No, he's just an egomaniac, more than Hogan ever was

[Velkontés]

Eric's been trollin' again, I see.

[MasterSnit]

Most trolls probably realise they are talking rubbish and are trolling, with Bischoff it seems as though he actually believes the stuff that he says.

Also, again I don't follow a lot of the business stuff, but ratings success these days doesn't really mean what it used to. Back in the 90s and up until maybe five years ago, almost every viewer was watching on TV at the time of the show airing. These days lots of people record and watch later, stream/watch online or maybe just read reports and watch clips online at their (TNA) website, or Youtube or wherever else. Television ratings, while I acknowledge are still very important, shouldn't be the be all and end all of the company and its success. Bischoff seems to think that it is, though. And even when the facts and numbers don't support him, he seems to just spin and distort the truth to justify his and his company's shortcomings.

[Champ]

You're either in Sheen's Korner, or you're with Bischoff

[Velkontés]

Jun 5, 2011 15:32:58 GMT -5 MasterSnit said:

Television ratings, while I acknowledge are still very important, shouldn't be the be all and end all of the company and its success. Bischoff seems to think that it is, though.

To be fair, the only way the TV station makes money is by selling advertising based on ratings. And if they don't do the ratings, TNA doesn't get a timeslot. Youtubing, downloading, even DVR doesn't make any money for the Network. And if TNA doesn't have a television outlet, they don't have the exposure to sell merch, tickets, PPV etc.

So yeah, ratings aren't the be all and end all, but they're pretty close. But I seem to remember reading that even TNA's mediocre ratings are pretty good for the station they are on in the States. It's kind of pitiful that only 5-10,000 people actually pay for a TNA PPV out of 1,500,000 Impact viewers.


I mean, christ, those 10% that Bischoff is ragging on probably makes up a big chunk of the people actually getting the PPVs and actually paying to see TNA.

[Champ]

To be fair, the only way the TV station makes money is by selling advertising based on ratings. And if they don't do the ratings, TNA doesn't get a timeslot. Youtubing, downloading, even DVR doesn't make any money for the Network. And if TNA doesn't have a television outlet, they don't have the exposure to sell merch, tickets, PPV etc.

I would think DVR is important for the ratings because you're still playing the channel on your cable box, so wouldn't it register the same as watching the show?

But, yeah ratings ARE important for those reasons you said. Without ratings, there's no tv slot, without a tv slot the company is worth $20. No pun intended to the "Network" storyline but if your show isn't producing ratings, the network has no use for you, hence no tv slot, hence no exposure. So I DO understand why ratings are important. Bischoff's problem is that he's a HUGE reason as to WHY ratings aren't high

I mean, christ, those 10% that Bischoff is ragging on probably makes up a big chunk of the people actually getting the PPVs and actually paying to see TNA.

As I mentioned earlier, if it was Vince McMahon making that statement, I'd say, who the fuck can argue? but Bischoff making that statement is just stupid because those 10% IWC viewers that are rebellious against WWE are the same people that support TNA most. So if Bischoff loses that "10%", it''s probably really 30-40%

[Naitch]

Jun 9, 2011 14:48:16 GMT -5 Champ said:

I would think DVR is important for the ratings because you're still playing the channel on your cable box, so wouldn't it register the same as watching the show?

I don't believe it registers until the person actually watches it. There is something called 5 day ratings now due to DVR boxes.

[MasterSnit]

From the few rants like this I've seen Bischoff come out with, it is always ratings, ratings, ratings. Obviously they are important, but I've never heard him talk about TNA's success with their DVD sales, t-shirts and merch, their advertising, house show attendances and successes, etc. If the ratings had blown up since he and Hogan slithered in to the company, then fair enough, but they don't seem to have made much of a positive impact on the ratings.

Also, all the talk of ratings on the actual wrestling show gets really annoying.

[Champ]

Jun 9, 2011 20:54:31 GMT -5 Naitch said:

Jun 9, 2011 14:48:16 GMT -5 Champ said:

I would think DVR is important for the ratings because you're still playing the channel on your cable box, so wouldn't it register the same as watching the show?

I don't believe it registers until the person actually watches it. There is something called 5 day ratings now due to DVR boxes.

Well, there ya go! That actually explains a lot that I wasn't aware of

From the few rants like this I've seen Bischoff come out with, it is always ratings, ratings, ratings. Obviously they are important, but I've never heard him talk about TNA's success with their DVD sales, t-shirts and merch, their advertising, house show attendances and successes, etc. If the ratings had blown up since he and Hogan slithered in to the company, then fair enough, but they don't seem to have made much of a positive impact on the ratings.
Also, all the talk of ratings on the actual wrestling show gets really annoying.

That's probably because their sales blow lol. Bischoff's deal is he sees none of that will be important unless he has the ratings to continue to produce the show that produces the product. But, god he sure isn't helping the show become more enjoyable to watch. Their next dvd will probably be titled, "best of Bischoff's 20 minutes openers"

[Velkontés]

DVR ratings aren't as important to advertisers because people can skip the ads. It's all about the live viewers. At least that's what I seem to remember reading. It's not like I'm an expert or anything.

Jun 10, 2011 6:50:07 GMT -5 MasterSnit said:

Also, all the talk of ratings on the actual wrestling show gets really annoying.

Agreed. WWE is just as bad though. I don't care that Smackdown is the highest rated show on SyFy.

[Champ]

That's true. If Smackdown is the highest rated show on SyFy, what's the point in actually pointing it out? Just let it be. Good fucking job on the ratings now have a pizza party backstage. No one in the crowd or at home cares

[MasterSnit]

Jun 10, 2011 15:43:24 GMT -5 Champ said:

Their next dvd will probably be titled, "best of Bischoff's 20 minutes openers"

Close enough.

There is a 2-Disk DVD set for Immortal called Immortal Forever that is sceduled to release on 7/19/2011.