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Post by Champ on Jan 13, 2009 17:00:04 GMT -5
Ironically R-Truth and Antonio weren't listed in the wrestler credits
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Post by Naitch on Jan 14, 2009 15:30:08 GMT -5
I didn't even know it was Antonio until MS told me. I don't know if its he changed his hair, his shitty talking abilities (he had like one line and it was the worst line of the movie). A lot of the wrestlers are just background material in locker rooms.
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Post by Champ on Jan 14, 2009 20:10:57 GMT -5
Every day that goes by I'm hearing more and more awesome things about this movie. Didn't Mickey just win a global award for it?
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Post by Naitch on Jan 14, 2009 20:27:51 GMT -5
He won Best Actor. And Bruce Sprigsteen won an award for a song he contributed to the soundtrack.
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Post by MasterSnit on Jan 16, 2009 14:22:03 GMT -5
Champ, just to be clear, I was yanking your chain about Blue Meanie talking about JBL. Like Naitch said, most of the appearances by wrestlers are just in the background. I seem to remember Blue Meanie just standing about, clapping and looking stupid.
GLF, I can understand why you feel the story with his daughter might have felt rushed and that did cross my mind. I think that a lot of people are so used to sagas being drawn out over weeks and months these days because of long running TV shows that are now pretty much of the same quality as films. More than anything I think it highlighted just how lost and stuck in his ways he was as a person. His daughter's whole life had went by, she had grown and changed so much but he was still a young kid from the 80's, now stuck in an aging man's body.
The ending ... Spoilers for anyone who may be reading this and doesn't want to know the ending - aka look away now, Champ.
And for anyone who does not know the ending of the Soprano's and wants to keep it that way.
The ending for The Wrestler was very similar to the ending of the Sopranos. Everything goes black and you make your own conclusion. I don't think it signified his death in the ring, probably just his wrestling career. It's likely that would have been his last match. So, in one sense it's not the death of him as a living human being, but probably the death of him as a person, to an extent. He had been struggling to find his way without his former glory and regular wrestling in his life since his star burnt out many years ago, and he had just clung on to this without moving on. It would likely be a bleak future for him without wrestling because of his inability to adapt.
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Post by Champ on Jan 17, 2009 3:41:20 GMT -5
When I saw spoilers I started reading it because that's what I always do. But after i got to the second line I just scrolled down. I'm pretty impressed with myself for being able to do that
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Post by evilmasterbetty on Jan 21, 2009 23:52:34 GMT -5
Finally got to see it.
Outstanding film. Just outstanding.
Mickey is so good, I don't think it's even possible to put it in words. He IS Randy "the Ram". Everything about his performance is spot on.
And Marisa Tomei, while also damn good, is freaking hot. And the parallels between being a stripper and pro wrestler were just downright eerie and, honestly, quite sad. Especially the scenes with the Ram and his daughter. If it wasn't so true it wouldn't have been so emotional.
And *SPOILERS* From this point (Sorry Champ)........
Last warning......
To me, I believe the ending was that he died, although I agree you can draw whatever you want from it. Once he saw that Marissa Tomei wasn't there, he thought he had nothing left to live for.
And if I had one complaint, and it's really my only one, it's that if someone like The Ram had a heart attack, it would have gotten out on Meltzer or something, and the fans at that last match would have known and probably not cheered him on so much. Plus, no booker in his right mind would have put him out there in that condition. But again, that's very minor.
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Post by MasterSnit on Jan 22, 2009 15:51:53 GMT -5
Yeah, the news of his heart attack would likely have been picked up, but I'm sure there is plenty of things that have happened in wrestling where, if the bookers or other wrestlers had known prior, may have stopped the injured wrestler from competing. I'm not sure of exactly what happened, but for example, the situation with Lance Cade may be an example of that. He might have been suffering seizures and black-outs for a long time and you would have expected something like that to be noticed by someone sooner, but he continued wrestling. Plus, maybe many wrestlers have seen it so much due to drug and alcohol abuse, that when a wrestler does pass out they don't really think too much of it.
I saw on the news earlier that the guy got nominated for best actor at the Oscars. I've not seen any of the other films with the people nominated but it'll take something good to deny the Ram!
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Post by evilmasterbetty on Jan 22, 2009 18:06:15 GMT -5
The buzz is that the Oscars are down to pretty much Rourke and Sean Penn, so it looks good.
And I read that Vince hated the movie because it exposed too much and makes wrestling look bad. Of course, I don't think he realizes that he helped create a business where this happens more often than it should.
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Post by Champ on Jan 23, 2009 7:33:22 GMT -5
I saw it! Very good movie. That ending was definitely a little strange. Marissa Tomei looked HAWT! Are we supposed to assume that he died in the ring?
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Post by Naitch on Jan 23, 2009 14:52:31 GMT -5
I'm not assuming he died in the ring. I just assumed he went on to have tons of death matches with Necro Butcher and then continued to not let R-Truth talk.
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Post by MasterSnit on Jan 25, 2009 13:19:41 GMT -5
Are we supposed to assume that he died in the ring? No. It's up to you to imagine what happened to him. Anyone else think the stripper looked a little like what an older Mickie James will look like?
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Post by Champ on Jan 26, 2009 12:07:13 GMT -5
Marissa Tomei one of the hottest chicks ever and she's 44 years old. Mickie will never look that good at her age
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Post by MasterSnit on Jan 26, 2009 16:15:01 GMT -5
How do you know? Can you see into the future or something? Who are you to doubt Mickie's 44 year old hotness? Next time I see you I'm going to Ram Jam you for dissing Mickie. RAM! RAM! RAM! RAM! RAM! RAM!
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Post by Naitch on Jan 26, 2009 17:36:06 GMT -5
Cut that shit out Robin. I don't care if you want to be called Master Snit, your Robin to me.
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