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Post by MasterSnit on Mar 28, 2009 8:14:48 GMT -5
Man, I'm getting humped.
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Post by Champ on Mar 28, 2009 12:33:50 GMT -5
Don't worry MS, there's only one week left of rape Also I have something to add that could benefit you next season Next season it looks like we'll have another show to play off of. I believe the new "Superstars" is getting taped with Smackdown every week and it airs the following Thursdays so we should be able to avoid spoilers. Also if they do that Smackdown may even have to go back to taping once a week and we should be getting 4 shows a week with no spoilers as long as we stick to the monday 7pm deadline. Since "Superstars" isn't a jobber show and they specified that anyone randomly from all 3 brands can appear on it on any given night, it will work in perfectly with the scoring. Here's where I was telling MS it would benefit someone if they fall really far behind...With a 4th show, more points are automatically going to be on the table which will make it easier to make a comeback if you're falling far behind. Say you get Kofi Knigston and he loses a match on Raw for 8 points, he could still pop up on Superstars on Thursday and grab you another 15 - 20 points. Next season is going to be fun! It's going to have more of an "anything goes" feel to it
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Post by MasterSnit on Mar 29, 2009 15:13:39 GMT -5
That is going to make it far more unpredictable and bring luck into it a lot more. The spoilers are just screwing things up completely right now, in my opinion.
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Post by Champ on Mar 29, 2009 19:59:15 GMT -5
Awesome news MS! I just looked at the ticket lineup and after Wrestlemania, they're going back to taping Ecw and Smackdown every Tuesday and superstars will be taped before Raw. So it looks like we won't have to deal with spoilers next season and we get an extra show. So this is going to be awesome! They probably had to switch Ecw back to Tuesdays and Superstars on Mondays so Shawn Michaels won't be late for church Wednesday morning if he has to appear on Superstars
Next season is going to start the week of Judgement day. Judgement day is May 17th. So that would mean our week 1 picks would have to be locked in Monday May 11th. It's going to go through til summerslam. It gives us 5 weeks off which is what I like to do after mania to kind of revamp the game and make sure everyone is completely adjusted in price, roster, and finishers. Plus if we started at Backlash, we'd have a 4 month season. That's too long.
Usually I change the prices right after the season ends and keep it that way for the next season. This time around I'm going to be adjusting the salaries for the next couple of weeks just to make sure each guy is a fair price going into the next season. We have a draft coming up, it's after mania, we're adding in a new sohw, so I want to give it as fresh of a start as possible so don't be surprised if you see salaries alter slightly for the first 3 weeks after mania. Plus you'll be able to give your opinions if you think a price is unfair. The prices will officially be set by the end of April so you can get used to them a couple weeks before week 1. I'll even put up a note letting you know when I won't be touching the salaries anymore.
I'm going to make sure this is the most fun season yet. With this new show it's really anyone's game this time around. It won't be so structured with previews and spoilers. Even the theme for superstars is "expect anything". That's a perfect 4th show for the fare! No more spoilers, this is going to be good!
I was even thinking of adding in some more subtraction points like if a guy forfeits, he gets a -5, which is equal to a set of match points. And if a guy gets fired it'll be -10 just like a suspension because I don't see why there's a penalty for suspension but not a firing. I think putting more negative numbers in the scoring will also help add more "anything goes". Plus forfeits and firings are as rare as suspensions so why not add those in.
So take Trips forfeit against Cody and Ted a few weeks ago. It was a special match in the main event. If I was to score that again next season with the forfeit penalty, I would award Trips match points, final points, and special points, and -5 for the forfeit. Normally in forfeits, you don't get appearance points but the appearance at Randy's and the objects got scored on top of that.
So basically it would look like this
Trips - 18 appearance(+3), match(+5), final(+3), Special(+3 handicapped), 3 objects(+9), forfeit(-5)
Why not?
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Post by MasterSnit on Mar 30, 2009 14:35:50 GMT -5
Cool. All we should really have to go on next season is an early RAW preview.
The new idea sounds ok. As long as we were all aware of any changes going into the new season it would be fine.
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Post by Champ on Mar 30, 2009 18:12:30 GMT -5
The forfeit and firing thing is as rare as suspensions and it all rarely happens anyway so I think it should have been there from the beginning the more I think about it. A guy can get penalized for getting suspended but if he gets fired he doesn't lose any points and a guy can lose 4 points for hitting a guy with a chair but lose no points for simply not showing up. It just makes more sense to add those into the scoring.
So this is how it will be. The only subtraction points we'll have is
- 4 dq - 10 suspension - 10 firing - 5 forfeit
If GLF and SM are cool with that I'll make it official for next season
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Post by Snitskyman2016 on Mar 30, 2009 18:30:17 GMT -5
The forfeit and firing thing is as rare as suspensions and it all rarely happens anyway so I think it should have been there from the beginning the more I think about it. A guy can get penalized for getting suspended but if he gets fired he doesn't lose any points and a guy can lose 4 points for hitting a guy with a chair but lose no points for simply not showing up. It just makes more sense to add those into the scoring. So this is how it will be. The only subtraction points we'll have is - 4 dq - 10 suspension - 10 firing - 5 forfeit If GLF and SM are cool with that I'll make it official for next season Lets score suspensions and firings as a 3 point appearance, why penalize somebody that much? a forfeit is a match loss though thats even worse than a DQ.
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Post by Champ on Mar 30, 2009 19:36:24 GMT -5
Actually it's completely opposite. A dq is worse than a match loss. Triple H scored more points for forfeiting instead of getting dq'd. You don't lose points for losing a match, You just don't get win points.
How about this, if a guy forfeits, he simply loses 3 points, instead of 5 points. That's only equivalent to an appearance. I think that's fair. So say a guy forfeits a match but still makes an appearance, he'll get the appearance points and the match points and then subtracted 3 for skipping out on the match. That's less of a penalty than a dq
I think the -10 for the firing and suspensions should stand because it's super rare that ever happens. I am willing to lower the number down to say - 7 or - 5, even though it really won't make much of a difference.
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Post by GLF on Mar 31, 2009 14:36:04 GMT -5
Yeah -10 for the firing and suspension and -3 for a forfeit go for it.
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Post by Champ on Apr 2, 2009 23:02:08 GMT -5
I just want to let you guys know that this post may come off me being an arrogant prick but that's not at all the reason why I'm posting this. It's something I'm actually willing to pursue and I need your opinions on this
First, I'm confident I run this game pretty damn good. Numbers and math are the one subject that was never a problem for me. I simply was just born lucky enough to be able to excel in that area. I'm just being straight up and honest about this. I even took a math and reading test one time so I could be evaluated before taking a cosmetology class(yeah I know it's ghey. I never went through with it) at Westchester Community College. Instead of sending me my results like they do with everyone else, they called me on the phone personally just to tell me I scored a perfect on the math section. I didn't think much of it. I figured it was kind of rare but not uncommon to get a perfect score. I just said, "oh really, that's great." Kind of pretending to be more excited than I really was. Then the person said, "we don't know if you realize it but we only see this maybe once every year or two out of the thousands of people that take the evaluation test. That's very impressive." I was actually more surprised that more people didn't get a perfect score as opposed to the fact that I got a perfect score because a lot of subjects in school were tough for me but this test was fairly easy to me. That's what finally opened my eyes and made me realize what I was capable of in the math area, more so than most.
Second, I'm telling you guys this not to put myself over but because I'm dead fuckin serious when I say, if given a chance, I really think I could prove to WWE(Joey Styles, whoever) that I can run this fantasy game better than those assholes they had running it before and I'll also be more on top of screwups instead of crying over the fact that I can't balance out scoring discrepancies. Fuckin assholes. Where do they find these losers?(that scored the game previously) If someone keeps telling you that you owe Steroid McNigger finisher escape points, go back, review the tape, and do your fuckin job! If you know the person is wrong and you're right, too fuckin bad for them. I just can't believe they couldn't continue that game. All they had to do was just be fair. I bet these fucks were math majors too and had degrees. I'd love to take over from where they dropped the ball because I truly believe I can make this more successful than it was before, even by myself. I know if I screw up, someone will point it out and I will fix it. That's why they have the email contact. I know people will give me shit for scoring something they think isn't fair but I know was correct, they can go fuck off. If they're right, I WILL figure it out and fix it. Bottom line is I would be much more fair and consistent than the last prick/batch of pricks that ran this game.
Now the opinion I need from you guys is, if you have any ideas or suggestions, what can I do to make that connection and prove to WWE what I'm capable of doing by running a successful fantasy fare? I love scoring this game. Incase you guys ever think I'm doing too much work to keep this going, I'm really not. It's easy and fun and the thing I'm more concerned about is you guys getting sick of it and dropping out. So trust me when I say I enjoy this and it's not a hassle at all doing this. If I'm late scoring it's normally because I couldn't get on the computer or I had somewhere to be the night the show aired. It comes very natural to me, and very few people are fortunate enough to be able to pull this off and I feel like I'm one of them. I just don't have the schooling credentials, but I have proof right here on these fantasy threads! Also, It doesn't take long AT ALL for me to score everyone. Sometimes I just have to go back if a guy makes like 6 appearances, gets 12 objects shots, bunch of eliminations in a battle, or scoring 18 divas in the same match and making sure I scored the right ones. lol. Other than that I pretty much have everyone scored in my head after the show ends and when I go back and watch the show again, 90% of the time I got it right the first time so I know I'm consistent. I'm not perfect though. Like those times MS pointed out that I scored Christian in a match and he was just at ringside or when Finlay hit Cole in the hand with the shillelagh and I missed it and didn't give him an object shot. Those are just honest mistakes but they can be fixed with a simple email or heads up. No harm no foul, unless I'm a dick and just let it go. But I will ALWAYS be fair and professional. If the points belong there my bad. If I scored it right and someone pregnant doges, tough shit.
What do you guys think? Sorry for the long post too. I don't know why I always have so much shit to say lol
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Post by Snitskyman2016 on Apr 3, 2009 16:22:09 GMT -5
You don't really think i am going to read such a long post on this awful green on black format do you? lol
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Post by Champ on Apr 3, 2009 17:18:36 GMT -5
That's fine dude. I even apologized on the bottom for it lol. Just read the last paragraph. That's where I really got to the point. I took a vicodin and smoke some 420. It makes me type even more. As if I don't need to shut the fuck up already
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Post by MasterSnit on Apr 4, 2009 8:39:59 GMT -5
I read it. Halfway through I was like this but I managed to get to the end. All you can really do is e-mail WWE if you're interested in scoring the game for them. I'm sure I heard before that Vince Russo actually got a job in WWE by e-mailing Linda McMahon directly because supposedly she likes to read or be aware of the e-mails she gets. He just e-mailed her and she actually called him back and he ended up getting a job out of it. So just e-mail them and simply tell them you're interested in expanding their website and appeal to fans online by managing the online fantasy game.
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Post by Champ on Apr 4, 2009 14:15:11 GMT -5
That's a good idea considering Linda likes to read emails. That's exactly what I mean. I'm trying to find the best source of contact with all my ideas. But obviously I don't want to make it too long(see earilier in thread) or they might toss it or shoot themselves
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Post by Champ on Apr 5, 2009 22:24:22 GMT -5
I'll have the results tomorrow. We had family over tonight to watch mania and I couldn't pay attention to any details so I have to go back and scan diva eliminations, Takers finishers and escapes, MITB stuff, there's just too much
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