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Post by Naitch on Aug 24, 2008 8:22:05 GMT -5
A wrestling fan in Ireland contacted Beth Phoenix and asked to have her endorsement on his website, making it the Official Beth Phoenix Website. For a while, everything was going fine, but then other sites started getting "Exclusive Beth news" before this guy did, and he got pissed. When it kept happening, he got even more pissed. From what I've read, the final straw was that Beth didn't come to see him or even call him when she was in Ireland on tour, despite saying she would. He then noticed a logo he had (allegedly) created for the Glamazon being used on WWE TV once they switched to HD. Since he had not given permission for the use of the logo, he tried to contact Beth several times to find out who had. When he couldn't get an answer, he plastered a TNA logo on the site and sulked in his basement for a while, finally posting a diatribe explaining the whole situation over 2 months later when someone noticed the TNA logo. He is now considering legal action against WWE for the use of the logo.
Oh those silly kids with computers and dreams!
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Post by Velkontés on Aug 24, 2008 9:15:08 GMT -5
hahahah, oh man. What a complete loser.
Can you really blame Beth for no-selling this doofus? Not that his spiel doesn't screams "delusional stalker" anyway. She probably never heard of him.
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Post by MasterSnit on Aug 24, 2008 14:16:38 GMT -5
I'm still waiting to hear if I have a case against WWE for obstructing my future potential income after they fired Cherry. I run the biggest online webpage devoted to Cherry's whopping BamBoozles. I can understand the guys pain though, I've sent many letter to Cherry's whopping BamBoozles Other side of the tracks but those juicy buckets never reply to me either.
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Post by Champ on Aug 25, 2008 8:58:50 GMT -5
LOL I bet Beth is twice as strong as this asshole too
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Post by MasterSnit on Aug 25, 2008 14:18:35 GMT -5
WWE should sent a representative over to his house to iron out a deal
*Ding dong* *Dweeb answers the door* "Hi there, my name is Stone Cold Steve Austin" Dweeb - "What? Uh... *STUNNER!*
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Post by Champ on Aug 25, 2008 20:25:46 GMT -5
Then drinks beer on his porch and celebrates with the neighbors
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Post by evilmasterbetty on Aug 25, 2008 21:16:30 GMT -5
If he didn't copyright it, it's probably fair use.
What a total loser.
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Post by Champ on Aug 26, 2008 0:24:44 GMT -5
That's what it really comes down to. If he had no written rights on the logo he'll get nowhere
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Post by Velkontés on Aug 26, 2008 7:04:56 GMT -5
If he didn't copyright it, it's probably fair use. What a total loser. Wrong. He doesn't need to copyright it. As soon as he created the logo he owned the copyright. Fair use means if it is used for the purposes of review. E.g. I just quoted your post to make a point. If I used your post for a commercial endeavour without your permission, I'd be breaking copyright. Whether you could be bothered to take me to court over it would be another matter. Likewise, this guy will need to prove he owns the copyright to the logo. Even if he did create it, if he doesn't have sufficient evidence to prove it in court then that's the end of the matter. Copies of e-mails sent between them would be a start. I'm saying I don't believe any of his story.
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Post by Naitch on Aug 26, 2008 14:24:19 GMT -5
V, that may be what it means but its not how it works. For example Marilyn Manson created some spooky Wizard of Oz like trees for an early album cover and someone else stole it. It was a situation he could not legally solve. So he started getting tats of drawings like that. Its all I got and the only story I know like that.
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Post by MasterSnit on Aug 26, 2008 18:06:36 GMT -5
Naitch, you should represent this guy at court. Naitch - "Your honour, exhibit one... ... I rest my case"
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Post by Velkontés on Aug 26, 2008 18:20:16 GMT -5
V, that may be what it means but its not how it works. For example Marilyn Manson created some spooky Wizard of Oz like trees for an early album cover and someone else stole it. It was a situation he could not legally solve. So he started getting tats of drawings like that. Its all I got and the only story I know like that. True, but if I stole $10 from you, and you couldn't prove that I did it, I'd get away with it. That doesn't change the fact I stole the $10, if you see what I mean. Also, you can't copyright an idea. "Spooky trees" is an idea. If the other guy made a similar album cover with a "spooky trees" motif, that wouldn't be infringing copyright. If he copied the album cover exactly (like photocopied it or made it so similar that they appear almost the same) then he'd be infringing copyright.
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Post by Naitch on Aug 27, 2008 8:10:42 GMT -5
V, that may be what it means but its not how it works. For example Marilyn Manson created some spooky Wizard of Oz like trees for an early album cover and someone else stole it. It was a situation he could not legally solve. So he started getting tats of drawings like that. Its all I got and the only story I know like that. True, but if I stole $10 from you, and you couldn't prove that I did it, I'd get away with it. That doesn't change the fact I stole the $10, if you see what I mean. Also, you can't copyright an idea. "Spooky trees" is an idea. If the other guy made a similar album cover with a "spooky trees" motif, that wouldn't be infringing copyright. If he copied the album cover exactly (like photocopied it or made it so similar that they appear almost the same) then he'd be infringing copyright. I don't think he went to court over it. I don't know I don't have the details. And Axl Rose of all people stole it from him.
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Post by MasterSnit on Aug 29, 2008 8:08:57 GMT -5
Marilyn Manson needs to stop pregnant doging and get in the ring!
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Post by evilmasterbetty on Aug 29, 2008 15:56:43 GMT -5
Ok, my professor today mentioned something about this idea.
He has the copyright as soon as he makes it, but if he wants to collect damages, a prerequisite is that he actually went to the copyright office to get a copyright on it.
So the short answer, yes he has a copyright, but he's screwed.
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