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Post by Champ on Aug 11, 2008 22:33:37 GMT -5
Fuckin Ted. I let him slide right by me
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Post by MasterSnit on Aug 16, 2008 14:57:11 GMT -5
I hope Batista goes crazy on Cena with a chair on Sunday and gets me 152 weapon points.
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Post by Champ on Aug 16, 2008 16:03:50 GMT -5
Im' not worried, I have this one in the bag The second place race is going to be interesting come Sunday
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Post by MasterSnit on Aug 18, 2008 11:38:33 GMT -5
Well, congratulations Champ. You had this one in the bag for weeks now.
Not that it would have made any difference, but why did 'Taker and Edge get weapon points? Weapons were legal in the match.
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Post by Champ on Aug 18, 2008 13:50:34 GMT -5
Weapons always counted in the cell. I didn't change anything. I would have posted it but I thought you guys knew that. Whenever there's an object title for the name of the match, the only objects that don't count is that particular object. All other objects DO count. I'm sure there's a post somewhere in the rules thread. The only matches where objects don't count completely is any type of Extreme match with NO object title like no dq, extreme rules, no holds barred, or last man standing. In a ladder match, all objects count but the ladder. In a singapore cane match all objects count but the cane. In a cage match, objects count but the cage itself. Same goes for the cell. Next time you're not sure just ask me. At least it didn't hurt your second place spot
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Post by MasterSnit on Aug 19, 2008 9:53:04 GMT -5
I always thought that weapons didn't count in any sort of gimmick match. Not that it matters, though.
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Post by Champ on Aug 25, 2008 19:52:58 GMT -5
here I'll refresh you quickly for next season.
objects do NOT count in Last man standing, extreme rules, no holds barred, falls count anywhere, and no dq. Since those matches are already specials and the main idea of those matches are meant for use of weapons and objects, they don't count.
Now say if the match is a ladder match and the commentators make a point to say, "this match is extreme rules" or "anything goes in this ladder match tonight" don't pay attention to them because ladder matches are no dq and extreme rules anyway. What it comes down to in a nutshell is the ladder is the only object that is promoted in those matches. Most of the time you only see them use the ladder any. So if they use a chair or hit a guy's head on an announce table, it will count. As a matter of fact I think there were only about 2 or 3 legit object shots in the MITB at Wrestlemania. So the other objects really are like a bonus. As I said, if it's a match with an object in the title, the only object that doesn't count is that particular object. In the Hell in the Cell, the Cell is the object. So the cell doesn't count but everything else does. It just so happens that the cell always had the highest object use even in the WWE.com fare, which is how I learned to always get both guys. Now take TLC for example, that's 3 objects in that match that don't count, but ramming the opponents head on the announce table DOES count. Same thing with a Last Ride match. The Hearse is the only object that doesn't count. So whenever you see a match with an object title that promotes the use of weapons that aren't in the title of the match, you normally take a chance on both guys. SM and I cleaned up on the Last Ride match between Kennedy and Taker because Taker won but Kennedy slugged Taker in the head with around 10 chair shots so he was worth it too. One more thing, Gulf of Mexico match between Chavo and CM Punk, the only object that didn't count was the Gulf of Mexico lol. It's easy once you get the hang of it. Just ask me next season if you are unsure. I won't lie to you(or maybe I will ;D lol). You know I'm one of the honest black men
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Post by MasterSnit on Aug 26, 2008 17:38:24 GMT -5
Ok, I think I've got it now. Man, I must have shafted myself out of a lot of points in previous games.
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Post by Champ on Aug 27, 2008 18:32:30 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of times you see a match where they only use that particular object. So you have to be careful. When Shawn faced Batista in the stretch match, Batista only had one object shot and Shawn had no object shots. I happened to get both of them and Shawn ended up not being worth it. I was actually hesitant to get Edge for the cell match for that same reason. The thing that made me buy him was the hype being put into that match and the fact that Edge completely snapped a few weeks going into the PPV. I just knew in my head he was going to go crazy with objects. So I took the risk
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Post by Snitskyman2016 on Aug 31, 2008 10:30:08 GMT -5
bump
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