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Post by Champ on Aug 18, 2008 14:33:07 GMT -5
The release of WWE referee Wes Adams has come as a surprise to a lot of people, but one of the possible reasons for his firing could be the botched ending on ECW last Tuesday. If you were paying close attention you'll notice that Adams made the count at the wrong moment. The reactions of all the wrestlers and announcers gave away that it wasn't supposed to happen. It occurred after Hardy hit a top rope side effect on Morrison and waited several seconds before even making the cover.
Although this isn't really a releasable mistake, the feeling is that even the smallest reasoning can be made during this cost cutting phase. It seems Adams was at the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Post by Champ on Aug 18, 2008 14:36:02 GMT -5
I remember that clearly. Morrison and Miz were working Hardy over for a while and then Hardy finally hit the comeback move when he gave Morrison a side effect off the second rope and Henry was waiting for the tag and Matt crawled over Morrison(obviously Morrison was supposed to kicked out and then Matt was going to attempt to tag Henry after the kickout) and Morrison got the shoulder up at 2 1/2 and the ref just hit 3 and had them ring the bell and it took a little while for them to hit Hardys music. Heh, sucks to be Mr. Adams
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Post by MasterSnit on Aug 19, 2008 10:02:14 GMT -5
Yeah, the ending was screwed up. Morrison just got counted for three and he was looking around wondering what the hell just happened.
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Post by Champ on Aug 19, 2008 19:32:03 GMT -5
It really isn't a releasable mistake though. We've seen screwed up finishes before. On Raw Jeff gave Umaga the Whisper in the wind and Umaga clearly kicked out at 2 and the ref just counted him down. That had to be the refs fault too since Hardy always wins with a swanton. It's like the refs are confused by the Hardys finishers for some reason. Wes must have been on thin ice before making that mistake
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Post by Champ on Aug 19, 2008 21:02:33 GMT -5
I just read Adams is receiving indy bookings as a wrestler. I wonder if he can work the ring because refs are very much in tune with in ring work and crowd responses. Danny Davis was a great example. Even though he was a jobber, he was a great heel
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Post by Naitch on Aug 20, 2008 7:38:54 GMT -5
I think Wes is at the bottom of whos at fault here. WWE does want to work shoot like matches and doesn't inform the refs of shit. So in my mind the blame goes like this.
1. Whoever booked the match 2. Morrison for not kicking out 3. Miz for not breaking it up 4. Mark for not breaking it up 5. Hardy for not breaking it up 6. Poor Wes for doing what he was told.
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Post by Champ on Aug 20, 2008 13:14:50 GMT -5
Morrison did kick out. But I think Wes actually is at fault because you can tell by the pace of the match that there was no way it should have ended there and Hardy expected the kickout and Mark was waiting for the hot tag. If it wasn't Wes's fault, I would say the blame should go to Miz for not breaking up the count lol
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Post by MasterSnit on Aug 20, 2008 15:35:07 GMT -5
Finger pointing won't get us anywhere.
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Post by Champ on Aug 20, 2008 18:03:42 GMT -5
It's YOUR fault MS. I'm pointing right at you buddy! Why did you get Wes fired?
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Post by MasterSnit on Aug 22, 2008 13:08:55 GMT -5
Hey, it wasn't my fault.
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Post by Champ on Aug 22, 2008 13:25:10 GMT -5
Snitsky disagrees because he claims it was your fault, not his
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Post by MasterSnit on Aug 22, 2008 13:48:10 GMT -5
Snitsky must respect my claim. It wasn't my fault, and it wasn't his fault either. It was someones fault, though.
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Post by Champ on Aug 23, 2008 18:16:40 GMT -5
And it sure as hell isn't my fault*nuke blows up the ring*
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Post by Champ on Aug 23, 2008 18:43:32 GMT -5
Turns out it actually was Miz's fault
-- ECW referee Wes Adams was apparently released over a screw-up in a finish during the main event of the 8/12 ECW between John Morrison & The Miz vs. Mark Henry & Matt Hardy. The Miz was supposed to save Morrison after a super side effect, but he missed his cue to break up a pinfall attempt from Matt Hardy. Morrison ended up trying to kick out at the last split-second when he realized Miz wasn't coming in to break it up. That wasn't supposed to be the finish as it seemingly came out of nowhere. Adams counted the pinfall nonetheless as WWE referees have been instructed to call every match as a shoot. When the match was over, you could tell that everyone was confused. Adams is being used as scapegoat for the incident, but a number of people in WWE believe he was a victim of a circumstance that wasn't his fault. They feel Adams was only doing his job as he was instructed because if a wrestler doesn't raise his/her shoulder up by the three count, you count them down and end the match. Adams had a reputation in WWE for getting to the shows early, and staying late as well. A number of people figured he'd be in WWE for as long as he wanted. Adams is now taking on bookings as a wrestler on the independent circuit.
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Post by Naitch on Aug 24, 2008 7:21:04 GMT -5
After reading that, that just sucks. The guy comes in and does his job and shows up early and stays as late as needed and is shit canned over that? Thats just sad.
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