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Post by Champ on Jan 11, 2010 3:14:06 GMT -5
there really is a fine line between shtick and gimmick, in wrestling at least. Kind of like, for all we know Daffney could be a chick that walks around in sweatpants and no makeup off tv and then turns psycho zombie goth on tv. In that case, it would be a gimmick. But if she's normally a goth chick in real life, then yes, it would be a shtick. It really all depends on how far out of character the person is from their real selves
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Post by Velkontés on Jan 11, 2010 7:33:13 GMT -5
It's hard to explain, because obviously "shtick" and "gimmick" are similar things to me as well. Even though I think she's doing shtick, "Daffney" is still clearly a character. If I met Shannon Spurill in real life, shortly before proposing marriage to her and running away to have beautiful little zombie goth children together, she obviously wouldn't act like a complete fruitcake. I do, however, get the sense from watching her that she would be rather fruity in real life. I guess you'd call it charisma or something.
The best way to put is that when I watch Daffney I think "she's having a laugh" (same with Maryse, who I also think is shtick rather than gimmick) whereas when I watch Undertaker I think "he's acting a part".
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Post by Champ on Jan 11, 2010 13:55:28 GMT -5
See to me Maryse is more a shtick than Daffney. I really think more "gimmick" with Daffney. But as I mentioned, to me, it all depends on how far out of real life their character is. I agree with you like with DX, Jeff and Mickie doing shtiks. Shtiks to me, again, is more of an extension of their real life character. Like they're being themselves for the most part, but altering it to fit the heel/face thing
I actually would have consider Orton a shtick because he's still kind of himself, but just being a heel at it, kind of like the Rock and Austin. Once again, it depends on how much of real life Orton is apart of the character
People like Dr Stevie and Abyss I totally agree about the gimmick thing because those guys are clearly playing characters.
Ok, in a nutshell, I guess the best way to describe my outlook is, anyone playing a character, and not being an extension of themselves, is a gimmick. That's why it all depends. For example, if Cena was a guy who walked around in prada suits and was real arrogant off tv, then I'd say he's playing a gimmick on tv. But since we know that the Cena on tv is pretty much the real life Cena, the 90s wigger is a shtick.
It's so funny how we're going on and on about shticks and gimmicks lol. But it's interesting because I never looked at it the way you put it
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Post by Velkontés on Jan 12, 2010 13:18:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't want this to be a never-ending story or anything. It's just I get the sense that Daffney is a chick who likes to dress up, vamp it up, and generally act a bit weird for shits and giggles. To me it's her shtick (although as with everyone on wrestling TV it's still a "character" or "a work" or "fiction" or whatever you want to call it).
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